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re: LSU Basketball Recruiting Thread: 2024 (And Beyond)
Posted on 4/11/24 at 3:38 pm to jamarr
Posted on 4/11/24 at 3:38 pm to jamarr
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I don't think you know either. the idea that minutes would be restricted based on who pays for the scholarship directly and who uses NIL money seems unsupported by evidence and unlikely.
I disagree. Up until the point I found out that Dean wasn't on scholarship I was questioning a lot about McMahon and his ability to make lineups and rotations. Finding out Dean wasn't on scholarship answered a lot of my questions. If you cannot come to the same conclusions, that is on you. Agree to disagree.
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I think baker proved to be too poor of an athlete. couldn't rebound. wasn't making enough shots to justify his minutes. so dean got more minutes.
It was painfully obvious where his game was lacking, yet he still played over Dean in many critical situations... most egregious of so was SECT against Miss St.
Can you provide an explanation for why this might be?
I can, it's the scholarship situation. Either that or McMahon can't evaluate talent...and I'd like to go with the former as I don't think he's that bad of a coach.
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again you have shown zero evidence of the relationship between scholarships and restricted or enhanced playing time.
What other explanation is there for Baker playing over Dean when anyone and everyone who watched our team last year came around to thinking Dean deserved more minutes? Either McMahon can't see what a basketball layman can see or locker room politics and the scholarship situation played a part.
Also, I did provide evidence. I gave other examples of McMahon's locker room politics to apply it to the situation of Dean and Baker.
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100% of the home games for many years. listen to every coaches show, read everything possible. sometimes drive to Nashville. I even go to mcneese games to think about what wade meant to the program. I notice the things you mention, the attitude from cook etc.
I'm genuinely glad I'm not the only one.
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everything has a pecking order or hierarchy. its not based on who pays tuition and there is no reason to think the coach cares about that.
Yes everything has a hierarchy. Sports is no different. I disagree however that there is no evidence to suggest this. McMahon is quite clearly very old school. He favors seniority but has also shown a tendency to play favorites. I can make the connection between this and the scholarship situation. If you can't, that's on you- and we'll have to agree to disagree.
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who said he was the focal point?
He quite clearly was from how he was talked about and the scheme that was in place the first few games of the season until we realized it wasn't going to work. He got exposed by Nicholls.
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again you have shown zero evidence of the relationship between scholarships and restricted or enhanced playing time.
I think I have.
"Shouldn't the coach play the best players"
Yes. Dean is better than Baker, but Baker played more.... now like I said previously I'd like for you to explain to me why that is.
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this is a fallacy called appeal to incredulity. you find it really crazy. hard to believe. good for you. no evidence other than you saying its wild or crazy to think otherwise.
It's not really a fallacy of incredulity when I provided evidence as to why I feel the way I do. The sentence before I said "it's crazy" was literally evidence as to why I feel that way, but yet I provide zero evidence. Ok.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:31 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Can you provide an explanation for why this might be?
I can, it's the scholarship situation
based on what?
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Finding out Dean wasn't on scholarship answered a lot of my questions
how?
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McMahon is quite clearly very old school. He favors seniority but has also shown a tendency to play favorites. I can make the connection between this and the scholarship situation
he favors experience because he wants to win and thinks experience wins. that has nothing to do with scholarships. scholarships are about the finances of the tuition. some people have it paid directly, others may use NIL money. that's nothing to do with the court.
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Yes. Dean is better than Baker, but Baker played more.... now like I said previously I'd like for you to explain to me why that is
baker wasn't as good as expected. couldn't rebound vs good athletes. its not some mystery we need to imagine its to do with who is paying what over at the bursars office or whatever
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It's not really a fallacy of incredulity when I provided evidence as to why I feel the way I do.
I am asking about evidence for your assertion, not evidence of your feelings. you can bring me a jar full of tears to prove you are crying but I am asking about basketball not your feelings.
you have asserted that McMahon will purposely play inferior players because of something to do with how various players are paying tuition. he would be risking wins and losses and his own career prospects because player X pays for school with NIL and player Y has it paid more directly. makes no sense. no one told you this you just appear to have invented it.
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