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Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by Riolobo
On the lake
Member since Mar 2017
4312 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:40 am
Obviously played a key role in the game. For our experts. what did y’all see that allowed Florida State to continue to move the chains.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22485 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:40 am to
Soft zones
Posted by Magnus
San Diego
Member since Sep 2019
1310 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:41 am to
lb's are bad, soft coverage so the db's wouldn't get beat deep...
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7422 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:41 am to
Soft zoning
Posted by Rugaru
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
82 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:42 am to
Conservative calls. Most disappointing aspect of the game were the calls on both sides. Expected to be better coached.
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3118 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:42 am to
House played no bump and run all game to throw receivers off schedule
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7136 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:44 am to
It’s like were in a classic Saints “prevent defense” the entire game.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16646 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:45 am to
I dont think LSU respected the QB throwing the ball and were content to stay back and wait for him to make a mistake. I think they were much more concerned with him running and were willing to let him beat us through the air. Unfortunately, he did.
Posted by Babboo
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2013
1158 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:48 am to
Anyone else notice that our DB’s don’t turn around and play the football? They are just trying to keep up with the WR. Hey guys, y’all are both going after the same thing, turn your head around and play the ball.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
7897 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:49 am to
If they didn’t respect him throwing the ball they would have been down at the LOS. It was the complete opposite. They were terrified of their DB’s getting beat deep. Which after watching the game, probably shouldn’t have been a concern.
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1726 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:50 am to
Honestly, it started with our front seven. Our DLine is not good, plain and simple. Secondary doesn’t have the athletes to cover at a high level so they play soft zone.
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8432 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:55 am to
Everything underneath and across the middle was open, players out of position.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
40092 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:01 am to
10 yard cushion, and dropping at the snap, on 3 & 8.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119021 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:01 am to
quote:

It’s like were in a classic Saints “prevent defense” the entire game.


I can tell you are old.

But ironically you are correct but for the wrong reasons.

Matt House like the Saints on 3rd and long situations were playing the sticks. Most ALL NFL defenses play this on 3rd and long situations. It forces the WRs to check into the sort route. The key on defense is to make the tackle. The Saints the last 3 or 4 years have been very good at this technique. Matt House is trying to do the same thing with the LSU defense. It's a very good approach if you can execute because it prevents you from getting beat deep. The problem is in order to perfect this defense you have to watch a lot of film on your opponent and recognize their tendencies on 3rd and long and meet them at the spot for the tackle or breakup. LSU obviously has not practiced this enough. It takes a lot of practice and most CFB teams just don't have that much time during the week. IMO Matt House should be doing more bump and run coverage and force the QB to make great throws. You will get burned in the NFL with these kinds of defenses because the QBs are good and can make the throws. Not so much in CFB. CFB QBs are just not that good.
Posted by bricksandstones
Member since Nov 2015
1596 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:05 am to
Looked like our linebackers were shite at playing zone. Dropping back and guarding grass while receivers flash or just sit down in their zone.
Posted by mcclurebeau
Member since Nov 2019
246 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:08 am to
Not finishing sacks and LB’s being out of position in zone coverage
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
5980 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:09 am to
We played off of their WR on the outside, and played a lot of soft zone underneath and over the middle.

I saw several times where a LB in zone moved to cover a shorter receiver - a lot of times who was already in someone else's zone, leaving someone (usually the TE) more easily wide open behind them.

Giver the number of new players and the new scheme for our defense, it was bound to have lots of little miscommunications which need correction. Only a live fire game could really teach this.

Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8432 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:27 am to
Did not know this. Makes sense and hopefully the guys start picking this up better.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30662 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:27 am to
You're gonna get a lot of soft zone/poor lb play answers and it's hard to dismiss that but their QB gave us a lot of problems. Kelly said in his presser, we got to him but were unable to get him to the ground. The result was he extended plays and his receivers worked back to their QB into a lot of those soft zone open areas. We also lined up too far of the slot receivers/TEs quite often, 5 yards off the receiver on a 3rd and 3.

Just my take, might be crap though
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35467 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:35 am to
quote:

what did y’all see that allowed Florida State to continue to move the chains.

Hardly an expert, but I have to give FSU and their QB a ton of credit. They played their tails off.

LSU may have played a bit of a soft zone, but being the first game and the offense completely sucking, they were trying to avoid the big demoralizing plays.
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