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re: Real climate cataclysm: Scientists Can No Longer Ignore Ancient Flooding Tales (Netflix)

Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:11 pm to
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Carlson and Hancock will be proven correct in the end.


From my prior thread (linked above)that is currently locked (for the uninitiated..,)

Homage to Carlson

Keep in mind that the guy below has been accused of being a "climate change denier" by the true believers


That statement / position alone is pretty telling about the motivations of the current political movement (gradualists, uniformitarians...). There is no search for knowledge or truth from these folks. Some folks just want to be "right" to drive policy/funding/agendas...

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While this knowledge is, at present, within the purview of a small but growing number of catastrophist geologists, astronomers, and other scientists, it has fallen completely by the wayside in the public discourse. For the present time politics dominates the discussion of global change, and there is a powerful political incentive to direct the discussion towards anthropogenic forcing to the exclusion of natural forces of change, for human behavior is subject to political control and natural forces of global change are not


Randall proposes cataclysmic cosmic impacts as the source of radical changes to the earth and part of cyclical process that is downplayed by mainstream science


LINK

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An open letter to a critic on the matter of chevrons, megatsunamis and bolide impacts.
by Randall Carlson



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I am addressing this response to one issue raised regarding remarks about possible mega-tsunami deposits that I brought up during the podcast. It is my impression after investing a fair amount of time researching this phenomenon that it warrants serious consideration, especially in light of what we have witnessed during the past decade, two tsunami induced mega-disasters in Japan and the Indian Ocean. Several comments were particularly dismissive, so I am setting down this small exposition, without malice, to demonstrate that the remarks made on The Joe Rogan Experience were preceded by a substantial amount of background research and thought. While the following remarks pertain to this one issue specifically, they are also relevant to the general attitude evinced in many of the other comments critical of something I said that are obviously being made by individuals whose preconceived opinions were incompatible with the information I presented and their objections were nothing more than a knee jerk emotional response rather than a reasoned critique with some actual thought behind it.





Chevron forms created on a stream sandbar by local spring floods in Georgia, USA. The significant point is that these forms were produced by flowing water, not wind. After the flood subsides and the sand deposits dry out they will become subject to wind erosion and modification until they are stabilized by vegetation.




Chevron forms found on the southern tip of Madagascar. Were these formations created by wind or water? If the chevrons are formed of fine-grained wind transported sediment why is the line of demarcation at the distal end so distinct? What kind of aeolian process would produce features of this form and magnitude? The light colored deposits near the upper end of the chevrons are sand. This sand is undoubtedly being modified by wind, but this does not mean that the whole complex of lancet-like forms composing the chevrons were originally created by wind.

For scale...







The Burckle Crater impact is speculated to be Noah's flood...
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Small scale parabolic dune forms and hummocky topography produced by local flooding in Peachtree Creek, GA are clearly visible in this photograph. The open end of the parabola seen in the top center points in the up-current direction which was from right to left. Again, these sedimentary forms are initially produced by flowing water and later modified by wind.



Large scale parabolic dune forms on the Rolling Palouse landscape of SE Washington State. Note the large parabolic shaped dune in the foreground. It opens upcurrent, flow was from right to left (north to south). Compare the general morphology of this landscape with the water shaped forms in the previous photograph. This landscape is the product of wind AND water. A study of mega-scale paleohydrology reveals the scale-invariant, or self-similar nature of fluvial forms across a wide variety of spatial scales and signifies its value as a means of comparison and recognition of mega features whose origins it is not possible to witness directly.









Summary:

-comet impact on North American icecap, images above (cooling was the existing paradigm prior to this)
-massive, cataclysmic flooding (see Washington state photo above)
-sea levels rise, massive amount of water vapor injected into the atmophere leading to a greenhouse effect/ rapid warming

Multiple impacts of varying scale have occurred leading to cyclical change....

Randall does a better job of describing this (in great, well referenced length) than I am above in this overview. His site and vids are definitely worth looking into.

LINK


Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:22 pm to
I often go down the Carlson rabbit hole. It’s fun.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:24 pm to
So "nothing can stop what is coming" is a reference to the next big thing, (cataclysm)?

May be time to party like it's 1999, again...

Posted by Gings5
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 3:36 pm to
Global warming is a scam
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:08 pm to
https://grahamhancock.com/ancient-apocalypse/

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Ancient Apocalypse | Netflix Series



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Journalist Graham Hancock travels the globe hunting for evidence of mysterious, lost civilizations dating back to the last Ice Age


Nov 11
Go time

Think of this while watching



For those who know…
This post was edited on 11/11/22 at 6:37 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 11/21/22 at 2:52 pm to
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That statement / position alone is pretty telling about the motivations of the current political movement (gradualists, uniformitarians...). There is no search for knowledge or truth from these folks. Some folks just want to be "right" to drive policy/funding/agendas...


The Empire strikes back…

https://theconversation.com/with-netflixs-ancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-has-declared-war-on-archaeologists-194881

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With Netflix’s Ancient Apocalypse, Graham Hancock has declared war on archaeologists

Published: November 18, 2022 1.40pm EST

Flint Dibble
Marie-Sklowdowska Curie Research Fellow, School of History, Archaeology and Religion, Cardiff University




His name is Flint (foreshadowing???)

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Netflix’s enormously popular new show, Ancient Apocalypse, is an all out attack on archaeologists. As an archaeologist committed to public engagement who strongly believes in the relevance of studying ancient people, I feel a full-throated defence is necessary.


He seems to know something about dibbling in full throated behaviors



To the heart of the matter:

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Steph Halmhofer, a PhD candidate at the University of Alberta who studies the use of pseudo archaeology and erasure of indigenous heritage by far-right groups, suggests that these attacks on archaeologists function to increase his sense of authority with viewers. As Halmhofer explains: It’s about conspiracism and the positioning of Hancock as the victim of a conspiracy. The repeated disparaging remarks about archaeologists and other academics in every episode of Ancient Apocalypse is needed to remind the audience that the alternative past being proposed is true, regardless of the lack of conclusive evidence for it. And the vagueness of who this supposed advanced civilisation was, combined with the credence given to it by being in a Netflix-produced series, is going to make Ancient Apocalypse an easily mouldable source for anyone looking to fill in a fantasied mythical past.


Hancock and Carlson are obviously right wing loons…

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Dangers of pseudo archaeology

In the last decade we have seen how conspiracy theories and distrust in experts impacts the world around us. And research has shown how pseudo archaeology – especially when couched in anti-intellectual rhetoric – can overlap with more dangerous conspiracy thinking.


Shut up and OBEY

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Donnelly also believed in an advanced civilisation – Atlantis – that was wiped out by a flood over 10,000 years ago. He claimed that the survivors taught Indigenous people the secrets of farming and monumental architecture. Like many forms of pseudo archaeology, these claims act to reinforce white supremacist ideas, stripping Indigenous people of their rich heritage and instead giving credit to aliens or white people.


And obviously racists views

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A page from Donnelly’s now debunked 1882 book, Atlantis: The Antediluvian World. via the author This sort of “race science” is outdated and long since debunked, especially given the strong links between Atlantis and Aryans A page from Donnelly’s now debunked 1882 book, Atlantis: The Antediluvian World. via the author This sort of “race science” is outdated and long since debunked, especially given the strong links between Atlantis and Aryans proposed by several Nazi “archaeologists”. These are the reasons why archaeologists will continue to respond to Hancock. It isn’t that we “hate him” as he claims, it is simply that we strongly believe he is wrong. His flawed thinking implies that Indigenous people do not deserve credit for their cultural heritage. .


Patterned after Nazi thinking…

In short they indirectly label Hancock a right wing, racist Nazi who’s alternative ideas have been “debunked” while not addressing ANY of the content /claims made by Hancock or the series

* An interesting “truth” above is the Nazi infatuation with esoteric science and history. History (and science) as we have been taught is incomplete…

This post was edited on 11/21/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 5:33 am to
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The Burckle Crater impact is speculated to be Noah's flood...
First time I've heard that. Sounds like a stretch.

What isn't a stretch is various unrelated cultures from aboriginal Americans to Asians to Persians all with flood stories. All emanating from the same timeframe. That timeframe included massive inland lakes formed from glacial melt. They were held in place by ice dams or tenuous terrain. These were eventually overtopped, and gave way. The result was massive rapid flooding on an unimaginable scale.

E.g., Over nine months, Lake Agassiz released a volume of water equivalent to that of the Great Lakes. Such torrent releases formed many of the world's great canyons, and almost certainly account for the Noah story as well.
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