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Posted on 10/30/22 at 2:18 pm to rohanman
What comes over the speakers that’s so critical?
Ref calls? Most people know the hand signals refs use. Spell it out for the female fans on the scoreboards. Listen to the game broadcast and be informed.
Tiger band? As soon as they built above the lower bowl, it’s been impossible to hear the band in every seat. The band plays a smaller and smaller role on Saturday nights. Installing new speakers to hear the band will just encourage more trashy piped-in music.
Down and distance? Scores of other games? Look at the scoreboard, listen to the radio broadcast, or look at an app. The NEZ scoreboard needs to be cleaned up. The smallest portion of the board is the game score. Tons of ads, not enough info.
Bottom line: Less audio is better. More audio is the Devil’s workshop.
If it is harder for sound to escape the stadium, wouldn’t the crowd noise be more intense than ever?
Ref calls? Most people know the hand signals refs use. Spell it out for the female fans on the scoreboards. Listen to the game broadcast and be informed.
Tiger band? As soon as they built above the lower bowl, it’s been impossible to hear the band in every seat. The band plays a smaller and smaller role on Saturday nights. Installing new speakers to hear the band will just encourage more trashy piped-in music.
Down and distance? Scores of other games? Look at the scoreboard, listen to the radio broadcast, or look at an app. The NEZ scoreboard needs to be cleaned up. The smallest portion of the board is the game score. Tons of ads, not enough info.
Bottom line: Less audio is better. More audio is the Devil’s workshop.
If it is harder for sound to escape the stadium, wouldn’t the crowd noise be more intense than ever?
Posted on 10/30/22 at 2:24 pm to lostinbr
All of this is exactly right.
I work for JBL's parent company. We worked on a design and project proposal for Tiger Stadium 2 years ago through the local integrator.
I work for JBL's parent company. We worked on a design and project proposal for Tiger Stadium 2 years ago through the local integrator.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 2:59 pm to TigerFanatic99
A proposal to fix the audio?
Posted on 10/30/22 at 3:14 pm to Flyingtiger82
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Would a huge speaker on cables hovering way above the stadium so we all hear the same thing at the same time work?
Probably. (Side note: it would be an array of speakers of more accurately, multiple arrays pointing in different directions).
The thing is, if you can hang arrays at the middle of the field it means you have a roof - so you can probably hang them anywhere.
Jerryworld has a bunch of EV line arrays that hang from cables at different heights/angles above the stands:
This is probably the best solution if you have a roof, because it makes the time alignment fairly simple. You only really have to worry about the areas where the top and bottom arrays overlap, which should be fairly narrow because the whole point of line arrays is that they have a tight vertical throw.
Ideally you would place them such that the top and bottom arrays are equidistant from the transitional parts of the stands. They probably couldn’t do that at Jerryworld, though, because the bottom arrays have to be farther back so they don’t block the scoreboard for folks in the upper decks. So the top arrays are probably delayed to compensate.
The real downside is that those speakers have to be a royal pain in the arse to access for any kind of maintenance.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 3:20 pm to TigerFanatic99
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I work for JBL's parent company. We worked on a design and project proposal for Tiger Stadium 2 years ago through the local integrator.
Out of curiosity, how were they looking to do it? Distributed speakers firing down from the top of the lower bowl? I’m guessing there’s not really a good way to centralize them with the new stadium layout?
Also, that sounds like an awesome gig.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 3:21 pm to lostinbr
Why not put some acoustic tiles along the problematic SEZ areas that are causing the reflection?
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:21 pm to BitBuster
It’s not really practical.
Those foam tiles you see with the pyramid shapes cut into them don’t really work. They are only really useful for flutter echo (like when you clap your hands in an empty room and hear a ring) at high frequencies. They aren’t nearly deep enough to absorb the frequencies that actually matter for vocal intelligibility.
For that, you would typically use larger acoustic panels filled with mineral wool, usually in the neighborhood of 2-4” deep (deeper = absorbs lower frequencies). Mineral wool can’t get wet, so that’s a major problem. The panels are usually covered with fabric, as the cover material needs to be somewhat acoustically transparent. If you put something like wood or metal over them there’s no point because then the cover just reflects sound.
So you’d have to have some sort of waterproof acoustically transparent material to use for protection. Then you’d have to cover the entire south upper deck with panels. And even then, they still might not absorb at a low enough frequency to fix the problem. They would probably be an eyesore and they’d definitely be impractical.
In a live sound setting, a crowd is often the most affective room treatment. People do a good job of absorbing high frequencies. I don’t think the high frequencies are the problem.
Those foam tiles you see with the pyramid shapes cut into them don’t really work. They are only really useful for flutter echo (like when you clap your hands in an empty room and hear a ring) at high frequencies. They aren’t nearly deep enough to absorb the frequencies that actually matter for vocal intelligibility.
For that, you would typically use larger acoustic panels filled with mineral wool, usually in the neighborhood of 2-4” deep (deeper = absorbs lower frequencies). Mineral wool can’t get wet, so that’s a major problem. The panels are usually covered with fabric, as the cover material needs to be somewhat acoustically transparent. If you put something like wood or metal over them there’s no point because then the cover just reflects sound.
So you’d have to have some sort of waterproof acoustically transparent material to use for protection. Then you’d have to cover the entire south upper deck with panels. And even then, they still might not absorb at a low enough frequency to fix the problem. They would probably be an eyesore and they’d definitely be impractical.
In a live sound setting, a crowd is often the most affective room treatment. People do a good job of absorbing high frequencies. I don’t think the high frequencies are the problem.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:56 pm to TigerBlood17
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I sit in 412 and never hear a word.
415 and same.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:15 pm to TBoy@LSU
Me too. Really bad. Was blown away at how good Auburn’s sound system and video board were, but I will take winning football over Auburn’s situation all day.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:30 pm to rohanman
Havnt been changed since 1947
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:05 pm to rohanman
I know a cheap way to make them sound better.
Stop the shitty canned music!
Stop the shitty canned music!
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:09 pm to lostinbr
Probably the best stadium sound I've heard was at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. Full stadium, loud crowds, but every word on the sound system was clear and loud, with almost no echoing.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 7:05 pm to NebraskaExPat
The administration is getting blown out of the water by some other sec schools. Both the money people and game day ops needs to step up
Posted on 10/30/22 at 7:45 pm to rohanman
The actual fact of the matter is that they simply turn the on, turn volumn full blast and then turn them off when game begins. There isn't a person involved with that process that ever goes down and hears the quality or volumn because: 1 they are lazy and 2, they don't give a crap. Therefore, the entire process is broken and not a person at LSU gives a crap about it.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:28 pm to jeffsdad
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The actual fact of the matter is that they simply turn the on, turn volumn full blast and then turn them off when game begins. There isn't a person involved with that process that ever goes down and hears the quality or volumn because: 1 they are lazy and 2, they don't give a crap. Therefore, the entire process is broken and not a person at LSU gives a crap about it.
I’ve been criticizing the stadium sound for a long time now, but this is an absolutely ignorant take.
There are technical problems that need to be fixed but it’s something that’s going to require significant capital investment. If you think the people actually running the stadium sound don’t know the problems exist or are just too lazy to fix it, you’re not knowledgeable enough to speak about any “actual facts” here.
This post was edited on 10/30/22 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:37 pm to rohanman
Maybe it saves us from all the crap they play over the PA system. Better play by play could be improved however !
Posted on 10/31/22 at 7:54 pm to kew48
I wonder if the admin is waiting on a big renovation before they fix speakers, video and lights?
Posted on 10/31/22 at 8:15 pm to rohanman
I have seats on row 10 in the east side on the south 15yd line. Can’t hear anything. For ole miss I sat in the south stadium club, sound is so loud that I almost couldn’t stay outside. They need better directional distribution of the sound.
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