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re: New Orleans is a war zone, will the city ever have its own Rudy Giuliani?
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:46 am to Eurocat
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:46 am to Eurocat
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It's a bit more complicated that "blaming the voter".
Agreed. This is a problem that New Orleans has always had. That being said, the voters are not educated enough, nor willing, to vote for actual change. The race barrier is a big one to breach
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:47 am to Tunasntigers92
The hard reality is that places like New Orleans, and to a lesser extent Atlanta, DC, etc. - do not have enough productive, normal (relatively) people in the city core to retake and control the heart of the city in the same way you saw with Manhattan.
New Orleans is not a business city. I know people here will blame the white progressive types who live in the city, and fair enough, but there simply aren’t enough people (in my experience) trying to live and work and raise families in New Orleans to turn it around. Nor are there enough business interests to push normalcy. Although we’re seeing that alone isn’t working in places like Seattle/Portland/SF anymore.
The entire country is stuck in a cycle where blighted areas become “cool” and are gentrified by young progressives who then run it into the ground and unwind the safety improvements and even as they’re fleeing elsewhere and whining about safety will defend the criminal element.
Candidly I don’t see a way out, and that’s not limited to New Orleans.
New Orleans is not a business city. I know people here will blame the white progressive types who live in the city, and fair enough, but there simply aren’t enough people (in my experience) trying to live and work and raise families in New Orleans to turn it around. Nor are there enough business interests to push normalcy. Although we’re seeing that alone isn’t working in places like Seattle/Portland/SF anymore.
The entire country is stuck in a cycle where blighted areas become “cool” and are gentrified by young progressives who then run it into the ground and unwind the safety improvements and even as they’re fleeing elsewhere and whining about safety will defend the criminal element.
Candidly I don’t see a way out, and that’s not limited to New Orleans.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:57 am to Pettifogger
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The hard reality is that places like New Orleans, and to a lesser extent Atlanta, DC, etc. - do not have enough productive, normal (relatively) people in the city core to retake and control the heart of the city in the same way you saw with Manhattan.
Exactly the point I was making. The leverage NY had doesn’t exist in NO; there are no hedge fund managers stepping in a puddle of piss on their way to work in NO.
Atlanta used to have that to a lesser extent but Covid remote work may have killed it. According to some of the things I’ve read it took a damn big bite out of it in NY city.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:58 am to Tunasntigers92
Enjoy your Chocolate City.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:01 am to Powerman
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The ATL mayor doesn't seem nearly as bad
But I'm probably basing a lot of that on a speech she gave during the BLM riots
I walked around downtown Atlanta a few weeks ago with my family and I can safely report, it's 1000000000000% safer than Downtown NOLA.
It felt like NO about 15 years ago. Whatever they're doing there, we could do here. But there's no motivation to do so. There's no desire to save it.
We're in the endgame now. It's all over here but the crying/shooting/stabbing/carjacking.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:01 am to Pettifogger
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New Orleans is not a business city. I know people here will blame the white progressive types who live in the city, and fair enough, but there simply aren’t enough people (in my experience) trying to live and work and raise families in New Orleans to turn it around.
Laissez les non temps rouler.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:01 am to Tunasntigers92
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:10 am to Pettifogger
As a Nashvillan born and raised I see the progressive decay starting to creep in here. Really hoping we don’t take a similar path NOLA or ATL took these next 20 years.
A damn shame though what has happened to NOLA as an outsider looking in. My buds and I did a bachelor’s trip there before Covid a few years ago, and man…do I have no desire to venture back onto Bourbon Street again anytime soon. Some of the people and situations we came across all weekend downtown were unnerving to say the least. We all agreed it felt like we were in Gotham or some other dystopian lawless city you see in movies. And it’s a shame too. It just isn’t the same city I remember visiting growing up and when I was in college. As a Southerner I take pride in all the iconic and historical Southern cities. Nola is a city that should always be considered an American treasure. Just too much history and unique culture stemming from NOLA for it to go down the toilet like it is.
A damn shame though what has happened to NOLA as an outsider looking in. My buds and I did a bachelor’s trip there before Covid a few years ago, and man…do I have no desire to venture back onto Bourbon Street again anytime soon. Some of the people and situations we came across all weekend downtown were unnerving to say the least. We all agreed it felt like we were in Gotham or some other dystopian lawless city you see in movies. And it’s a shame too. It just isn’t the same city I remember visiting growing up and when I was in college. As a Southerner I take pride in all the iconic and historical Southern cities. Nola is a city that should always be considered an American treasure. Just too much history and unique culture stemming from NOLA for it to go down the toilet like it is.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:30 am to Tunasntigers92
NOLA had a sharp reduction in crime at about the same time NY did. Indeed, as recently as 2019 murders were the lowest they had been in 50 years. And we all know what happened since then and yes, it’s been bad. The solution is not complicated but it is hard, particularly with terrible progressive ideas holding sway with most Democratic pols (though not necessarily with older black Dem voters). Hire more cops, more aggressive policing, throw the bad guys in jail. The political will for something like this is not there yet, but that can change.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:30 am to psk_Vol
Unfortunately even people in the surrounding suburbs are thinking about moving 30 to a hour away from the city. The problems are starting to spill over. It's pretty bad.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 10:27 pm to DaTruth7
Yea I know of at least a dozen families who have relocated since Katrina from NOLA to Nashville. NOLA transplants are everywhere in Tennessee.
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