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re: The Top 10 Deadliest Battles in U.S. Military History

Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by iwantacooler
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:27 pm to
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If the confederates seceded, why are they counted as US casualties?


Judging by the downvotes, there at least 7 people that know the answer to this question but haven’t answered it. I’m ignorant in this regard and genuinely want to know, especially since confederates weren’t allowed to be buried in national cemeteries (although some ended up there).
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:29 pm to

Still pales in comparison to French casualties at the battle of Verdun, nearly 400,000.
Posted by nealnan8
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:32 pm to
it would be interesting to see the worst losses in a 1 day battle. I seem to remember reading about some horrible losses to the US Marines at the Chosin Reservoir battles.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:34 pm to
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Still pales in comparison to French casualties at the battle of Verdun, nearly 400,000.



The U.S. has never fought a battle that compares to Verdun or the Somme. The Meuse-Argonne Offensive is the bloodiest battle in U.S. history and even then the casualties our armies suffered in that engagement were "only" 122,000 killed and wounded.
Posted by nealnan8
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:35 pm to
"Government still covering up the battle of shrute farms I see."

... worst beet-down of Union forces that month.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:36 pm to
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it would be interesting to see the worst losses in a 1 day battle.


The Battle of Antietam is the bloodiest day in United States history. In that battle, some 22,700 Americans fell killed and wounded in roughly 13 hours of combat.

Compare that, however, to the bloodiest day of the Napoleonic Wars: the September 7, 1812 engagement between the French and Russian empires at the Battle of Borodino. Some 85,000 men were casualties of war on that day.
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:45 pm to
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1. The Meuse-Argonne Offensive (World War I) - 26,277 U.S. fatalities


What’s sad is probably less than 10% of Americans have ever even heard of this battle and only a fraction of those who have know any details.

Instead of teaching our country’s history, schools are more worried about teaching our kids about cross-dressing, homosexual fetishism, and white guilt.
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:46 pm to
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What’s sad is probably less than 10% of Americans have ever even heard of this battle and only a fraction of those who have know any details.

Instead of teaching our country’s history, schools are more worried about teaching our kids about cross-dressing, homosexual fetishism, and white guilt.



i mean, i teach it. does that help?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:54 pm to
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i mean, i teach it. does that help?


I’m glad you some others still do.

Still, and no offense, even when I was in high school myself, I found high school history to be a joke. They would barely skim the surface of massive events from history. Frankly, I found it boring.
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:56 pm to
i have an MA in military history, i talk about battles and big events a lot
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:58 pm to
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If you include both sides, Kennesaw Mountain was 4000.
Casualties, not fatalities.
Battle of Chickamauga was the bloodiest in GA with 34k Casualties and 4k killed.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:00 pm to
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i have an MA in military history, i talk about battles and big events a lot


That being the case, I’d perhaps have found your class interesting. We’d have probably bored the rest of the class to sleep though while we debated the wisdom of this Stradegy or that, or perhaps the importance of one battle over another.


What grade do you teach?
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 7:02 pm
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:02 pm to
10,11,12
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:03 pm to
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Uh, no Antietam?


Only 2,108 killed on the American side
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:12 pm to
Because from nearly immediately after the Civil War to only a few years ago, most northerners entertained a spirit of reconciliation in order to preserve the very goal they fought for.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:17 pm to
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Only 2,108 killed on the American side



"We are all Americans." - Lt. Colonel Ely S. Parker, military secretary to General-in-Chief Ulysses S. Grant (April 9, 1865)
Posted by Breauxsif
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:20 pm to
2nd ID at the Chosin Reservoir, hooooah!!
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:29 pm to
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I doubt very seriously we will ever see ten battles on this tragic and deadly of a scale for a very long time.
9/11 was just shy of 3k initial deaths but I think the number is probably in the top 8 of this list of you can formulate a number from the first responders in the initial days who have died due to being there.

I would argue that the next attack on this list that we will see is civilian deaths due to chemical/nuclear bombs. Just look how easy it was for the Chinese to fly a balloon with a payload the size of a bus over the length of the continental US. Imagine that being a chemical weapon spraying it's payload aimed at people and our food supply.

Overseas I think we are in the position to not have to send troops overseas in any large numbers. We can fly drones controlled from bases here and and if need be rely on Naval Ships & Carriers to be our forward in the field bases. Aside for not openly flying drones controlled from the US, I think Ukraine is the likely example of what our involvement in another European war would look like.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:31 pm to
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9/11 was just shy of 3k initial deaths but I think the number is probably in the top 8 of this list of you can formulate a number from the first responders in the initial days who have died due to being there.


I wouldn't classify 9/11 as a "battle."
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
16034 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:38 pm to
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I) - 26,277 U.S. fatalities
So to believe this number of deaths, would the total of American forces be in Europe around 100,000?
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