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re: Financing for raw land

Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:54 am to
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29344 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:54 am to
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raw land planted in loblolly pines.



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At $3500/acre


And you said it is in a rural community? Geez. Sounds like you are paying recreational land prices not timber investor prices. Have you had a forester look at the land to see what you would have in timber? How far is it away from mills?

1. As mentioned before, call your local Land Bank, First south farm credit or Southern Ag and see what they have going. They will provide you with various financing possibilities. I know Louisiana Land Bank has been providing a patronage check back of at least 1% of your outstanding loan balance every year.
2. Someone mentioned an LLC getting a better rate, I have never seen that. If you did buy it in an LLC, they would base the loan on your credit and you would have to sign a personal guaranty as well. However, there MAY be some added tax planning opportunities available by putting it into an entity. Ask your cpa.

Remember, if you are buying this from a large company like Weyerhaeuser, they are selling the land for a reason, i.e. they think they can get more money than it is worth.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 9:02 am
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1548 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 8:58 am to
First South Farm Credit

Ask for Jeremy Clostio

Just finished a raw land deal, 20% down, 8.2% interest, 15 years, plus patronage refund yearly which would effectively lower your interest rate about 1%.

Posted by Shabath227
Member since Jan 2022
413 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 7:25 pm to
I financed through First South last April. I just got my first dividend check last month.

I had to put 20% down, financed for 12 years at 4.78%. My price per acre was so cheap, they didn’t even want an appraisal.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1548 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:58 am to
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had to put 20% down, financed for 12 years at 4.78%

I am jealous like a MoFo for 4.78%, but interest rates have gone to shite since then. I'll be refinancing once rates go down to 6 or below.
Posted by BillWilliamson
Pensacola, Fl.
Member since Nov 2020
75 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:17 am to
Would you mind sending me the contact information for your people at Prudential? I've made a few attempts to get in touch with someone with no response from anyone.
Posted by Shabath227
Member since Jan 2022
413 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:33 am to
Jack,

Rates started to increase the day after I locked in. Talk about good timing and the Lords blessings.

I worked with Eric Clark out of Jackson. He told me that I would probably never see rates like that again.

I refied my house about a year earlier at 2.375 for 15 years.

Needless to say, I’m not anything with either of those rates until paid off.
Posted by deltafarmer
Member since Dec 2019
513 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:24 am to
Shane.Hutchinson@pgim.com

(870) 217-6365

He is in Jonesboro, Arkansas. I’m in north Louisiana.
Posted by Nome tiger
SETX
Member since Nov 2014
85 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 2:14 pm to
Sugar Shane! He used to be with Rabo Bank.
Posted by deltafarmer
Member since Dec 2019
513 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 2:27 pm to
Yes he did. Very nice guy
Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
1582 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:27 pm to
Did I miss where you were buying? $3500 is pretty cheap unless it is a cutover.

Posted by BillWilliamson
Pensacola, Fl.
Member since Nov 2020
75 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:14 pm to
Baldwin county, AL.

It's all planted pines. I'm going to try to get a better deal by asking for another 100 acres nearby and hopefully they will come down on their price a little.
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