re: News reporting U-High kid fell overboard

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There are no known facts other than.. he jumped. One single ring was thrown and he died

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We know they called in the Bahama Defense to search, who deployed the US National guard as well. Seems like a lot more than throwing a ring.

I’m pretty sure that’s the protocol when you have a person overboard no longer visible. We don’t even know that the crew knew he was overboard until he was already out of sight. Based on the video he was out of sight in seconds.

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He’s just looking to blame someone other than the kid who jumped. He’s relying on panic and gossip from a bunch of other drunk kids who have expectations not routed in reality. 18 years old think that life is a movie and if there’s a man overboard companies are supposed to release the hidden ninjas that will launch 15 motorboats to find the person that jumped.

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I’m not looking to blame anyone…. A tragedy happened…. Something that could potentially happen again.. all I’ve said on this today is that I feel the response from what I was told was inadequate and if it wasn’t could potentially however so slightly saved this young man and that it behooves anyone doing these trips to look deeper at the subcontracted companies. That’s it. Y’all’s weird obsession with a potential lawsuit is odd.

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The stories were the same.. the crew was unprepared at the very least.

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In video the life preserver thrown looked like the one from the SS Minnow.

Was it actually more sophisticated with some kind of light or other way to signal position attached to it?

For night time cruises that are serving drinks and especially ones on an ocean you would think that they would have to have more of a plan than dropping off one old fashion ring buoy close to the side of the boat, turning around once message relayed over the music and partying, calling in additional help afterwards, and expect to find person at night, but maybe that’s another reason our coast guard is so active in the Bahamas.

Obviously the kid is responsible for jumping off, but in I guess more of warning for others traveling to similar places it’s not a like a drunk falling over the side either looking too far over side or being pushed by another drunk just in attempt to scare isn’t a reasonable possibility for boat company to have a better plan to handle that type of situation. It’s also not like the sides and railing are too high to mitigate those concerns

I would also like to think one more attempt was made to toss another life preserver from closer to the back of the boat, but I haven’t read of any.

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I'd like to see a timeable between Cam going overboard....the ship dropping anchor to search

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Youre not going to do much of a search if youre at anchor.

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I've heard multiple 1st hand accounts of people that were on the boat that stated disturbing information on the length of time it took for these actions to occur

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State them

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I’ve heard multiple 1st hand accounts of people that were on the boat that stated disturbing information on the length of time it took for these actions to occur

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Ok. What did you hear specifically?

Here’s my issue. Were people legitimately timing everything? When you’re waiting for help in an emergency situation a couple of minutes can feel like hours. Again, we are relying primarily on the eyewitness accounts of intoxicated teenagers. Y’all may be right that things were mishandled along the way but your cryptic posts sound like “I know things you don’t know” and it’s annoying AF, especially when every sensational rumor about Cameron seems to have been posted.

Here is the only thing I have heard about the response. It is at least 3rd hand information and came from a SJA or Catholic mom in a text. She said it took at least 30 minutes for the coast guard to show up. Did she mean the defense force? Was it really 30 minutes or did it just seem that long because they were terrified/traumatized and feeling helpless? Did she actually mean the US Coast Guard once they were called to assist? These are things that can be discovered and made fact but I have no access to that info so I’m not going to post that account of the events here as if it’s reliable information.

what a tragic story

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That doesn’t seem long at all for the US Coast guard to arrive and start searching international/a foreign countries’ waters. This isn’t like you call 911 and an ambulance arrives in 3 minutes. And how is that delay the boat operators fault? People were panicking sure and every minute probably felt like forever. But launching a massive search and rescue mission takes a minute. It’s why you don’t purposely jump out of a boat.

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I agree if she was referring to the USCG but my feeling is that she referred to the Royal Bahama Defense Force as the coast guard. I was just shown the text, not part of the original conversation.

I am kind of surprised that they don’t have at least 8 crew posted around the deck to keep an eye out for this type of situation. A couple at the bow and a couple at the stern. Two or four mid-ship. I don’t know what they charge per person but say on the low end it’s $50 a head. That’s $20k revenue for the cruise. There shouldn’t be less than 8 crew to manage a group that size.

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SAR (search and rescue) Readiness: Each Coast Guard unit with a SAR readiness responsibility shall have a suitable SAR resource ready to proceed within 30 minutes of notification of a distress.

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"Ready to proceed" doesn't mean on scene. Frankly, 30 minutes is really fast for a marine response