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re: Do you think JFK was murdered by the government?

Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:03 pm to
Posted by BCBAMA
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:03 pm to
One of the last statements JFK made at the White House before leaving on his fateful trip was that he intended to soon “tear down the CIA brick by brick.” The assassination was from three different angles according to the doctor performing the original autopsy, who is also on record of stating that is not his autopsy information that was submitted.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:31 pm to
Wrong. He did not act alone.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/23/23 at 4:35 am to
quote:

To further debunk all the tin foil folks

Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:51 am to
Proof of this quote? Cite?

Autopsy info of yours is BS.


Chicago Tribune 1992:

Breaking a silence of almost 29 years, the two Navy pathologists who performed the autopsy on slain President John F. Kennedy denounced as hoaxes the various conspiracy theories about Kennedy`s assasination.

Kennedy was killed by two bullets fired from behind and above that struck him in the back of the head and neck-just as the Warren Commission concluded in 1964-the doctors said in lengthy interviews to be published in the May 27 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association.

''I am tired of being beaten upon by people who are supremely ignorant of the scientific facts of the president`s death,'' said Dr. James Humes, who was in charge of the autopsy performed on the night of Nov. 22, 1963, at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md. He was assisted by Dr. J. Thornton Boswell.

In an accompanying JAMA article, four of the doctors who vainly tried to save Kennedy`s life at Parkland Hospital in Dallas also spoke publicly for the first time, saying nothing they saw in the emergency room refutes the Warren Commission`s report.

The four-Drs. Malcolm Perry, who tried to aid Kennedy`s breathing by cutting an airway in his throat, Jim Carrico, M.T. Jenkins and Charles Baxter- were especially critical of Crenshaw, who was a junior resident at Parkland at the time Kennedy was brought in.

Although Crenshaw claimed he played a major role in treating Kennedy, none of the four doctors who worked on the president recalled Crenshaw even being in the emergency room. Crenshaw said that based on his vantage point he was able to conclude that Kennedy was shot from the front and that autopsy evidence later was altered.

''His (Crenshaw`s) claims are ridiculous,'' Baxter said. ''The only motive I can see is a desire for personal recognition and monetary gain.''

JAMA editor Dr. George Lundberg said he has been urging the two Navy pathologists to tell their story for seven years to counter the growing number of conspiracy theories surrounding Kennedy`s assasination.

''We would hope the interviews with the pathologists and doctors would put an end to the Kennedy assasination theories,'' Lundberg said. ''But it would be naive to think that there won`t still be people imagining. conspirators here and there. In a free country anybody can say what they want.''

Humes said he was totally in charge of the autopsy and that no one interfered with his work. He denied that the military or FBI was in control, as well as other accounts of what went on in the autopsy room that are used to bolster conspiracy theories.

The most important part of the autopsy was the examination of Kennedy`s skull, which proved that the fatal bullet came from above and behind the president, he said.

When a BB hits a window it creates a small hole on the outside and a beveled crater on the inside as broken glass follows the path of the projectile, Humes noted.

The same pattern was found in Kennedy`s skull, he said. There was a small hole on the skull`s outside where the bullet entered, and a crater on the inside of the skull produced by bone that was knocked loose, he said. This pattern was repeated as the bullet exited through the right side of Kennedy`s head.

''This is a law of physics and it is foolproof-absolutely, unequivocally, and without question,'' Humes said. ''The conspiracy buffs have totally ignored this central scientific fact, and everything is hogwash.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted by zippyputt
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Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:51 am to
Great retort when faced with facts.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 3:07 pm to
If he was shot from behind, why did the back of his head explode? Physics proves that is an exit wound, not an entry wound.

JFK was assassinated by more than 1 shooter. Period.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 3:15 pm to
The back of his head did NOT explode. People please learn the basics before you posit alleged facts and opinions.
Posted by Ripley
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 3:26 pm to
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Posted by Dickaroos
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 3:55 pm to
The government admitted to fricking killing him! If a person doesn’t believe the government killed jfk by now it’s possible that they are complete fricking retards!
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 4:52 pm to
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I was in Dallas a week ago and stood behind the fence on the grassy knoll. Easy shot for any one with any rifle skills. Also knelt at a window next to the one Oswald shot from. Very difficult shot for most especially with the crappy rifle he had. He got one shot off max. Our Goverment made the other shots


Agree. Oswald would have had a much easier shot as Kennedy was headed toward him, yet waited until he was moving away from him. Why?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 4:57 pm to
Yes definitely a cover up buried forever
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 5:24 pm to
Didn’t see the footage, did you? Also, why is Mrs. Kennedy trying to climb out the BACK of the car?

Think and follow evidence bud. Stop following like a sheep. There is a reason why the JFK files are still not release (all of them).
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted by JackDempsey
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 5:31 pm to
Jackie was trying to retrieve a part of JFK's skull
Posted by PAPOU 56
Ozark AL
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 5:38 pm to
She was trying to get the hell out of there after seeing his head blown off
Posted by SalE
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 5:41 pm to
Begin the process in Nola...
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 5:42 pm to
There is also this report fromTHE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

- “ JFK Assassination Records
Home > Research Our Records > The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection > Table of Contents > Findings
Findings

C. The Committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The Committee is unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy.”
Posted by Tempratt
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 6:13 pm to
Your answer

Here’s your answer.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5799 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 8:17 pm to
I’ve looked at this for over 35 years. I’ve seen every one of the 250 conspiracy shooters etc…. I promise I know more details than you ever will . All I do is look at the evidence “bud” and the shots were easy from Oswald’s position. Easier than the grassy knoll in fact. I’ve been to the site at least 10 times. Jackie climbed out to grab his skull. Next dumb question please. The answer I gave was the “back” of his head didn’t explode. The front/side did. Geez, this is JFK 101 stuff.

And the government “admitting” they killed him? Pulease! A conspiracy just means 2 or more people do something in furtherance. That’s it. Nobody has EVER shown any real evidence of a second shooter at All.

It’s been shown that the 3 shots and impacts and everything could have happened exactly as done by Oswald. That was the first batch of tin foiler’s arguments 40 and 50 years ago.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 8:21 pm to
The book depository shot was slow and moving away and static as far as any lateral movement (most difficult in shooting skills). In other words it stayed steady and was almost a stationary target.

The knoll shot would have been much more difficult since it was a left to right moving shot while also going downward. Much more difficult.

Posted by MeridianDog
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 8:34 pm to
Several times, I have jumped into the rabbit hole of what happened and how difficult it is to even determine how it could have happened, when JFK himself chose the route about an hour before getting into his limo and the had to understand circumstances that placed him on the road in front of the School Book Depository Building.

I do know, there is a lot missing from the investigation, with interviews missing, changed by both the interviewers and the witnesses. Some told their story several times, never the same way twice. Ruby killed Oswald; I am certain of that. Why he did it, I don't know, but I consider the situation with Ruby to be much different than what was publicized. The same could be said about Oswald.

I can see huge holes in the deduction those who were put in charge of determining what happened and concluding that Oswald accomplished the kill.

I will say that even the worst military marksmen I ever encountered, occasionally would pump out what everyone here would consider an unbelievable and therefore impossible to accomplish series of shots under the pressure of a moment.

Did Oswald make this impossible series of shots? I have seen worse riflemen than Oswald do better than he did.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 8:38 pm
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