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re: Gaetz broke the GOP establishment lineage. That's why they are lashing out.

Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119027 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:52 pm to
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I assume anyone defending McCarthy implicitly approves of his performance as speaker.


This is my assumption and I would like some clarity.

I also assume these same McCarthy supporters support CRs, not releasing the J6 tapes, and caucusing with Dems and Biden to pass CRs.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5063 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:52 pm to
And Gaetz is replacing it with......nothing
He has no ideas-hes just a peacock
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20447 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:52 pm to
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Now the ronbots are simping for Kevin



Did anyone not fully expected them to.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119027 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:53 pm to
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And Gaetz is replacing it with......nothing



You should take a basic 8th grade civics course.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63214 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:57 pm to
It's either that or the people always quick to mock with "call me when something is done" actually have no idea what "something" looks like and/or don't actually have the stomach for "something."
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18002 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 12:57 pm to
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I also assume these same McCarthy supporters support CRs, not releasing the J6 tapes, and caucusing with Dems and Biden to pass CRs.

So Trump isn't onboard with us here?

Finally, some separation between DT and GumboPot.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56679 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:00 pm to
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So Trump isn't onboard with us here?


There’s no us. You don’t want those things.

And of course Trump is onboard with it.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18002 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:03 pm to
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There’s no us. You don’t want those things.


You get to decide what I want? You have a fricked up little mind.

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And of course Trump is onboard with it.

Then why did Trump get McCarthy the speakership back in January? Why didn't it make sense to follow through with what Gaetz and the other 20 Reps started back then? Seems to me the country and the Right would be in much better shape than it is now.
Posted by neverbefore
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2023
43 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:03 pm to
People should be dancing in the streets; this is the first strike back at the DEM/GOP alliance which has railed against and completely ignored the American public and its mainstream ideas and ideals for the last 30 years. The one most outstanding and common alignment in the public both DEM and GOP are the protection of the southern border and the immediate stoppage of the millions of illegal immigrants crossing that boarder every month, to tune of millions this year alone. McCarthy and the GOP had the perfect chance to initiate some change there and force that dickhead we have as a president to stop the surge, and they let that opportunity go out the window without even a debate. That is why McCarthy is gone and I applauded Matt for using whatever tools he could muster enough votes to vacate McCarthy for betrayal.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:08 pm to
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Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56679 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:10 pm to
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And Gaetz is replacing it with......nothing He has no ideas-hes just a peacock


it’s the job of the entire house to replace it. Expecting Gaetz to do it shows a fundamental misunderstanding.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Ironic Democrats think they should run a country when they can't even define what a woman is...


No doubt
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56679 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:15 pm to
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You get to decide what I want?




You not wanting it has nothing to do with me. I’m just pointing it out.

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Then why did Trump get McCarthy the speakership back in January? Why didn't it make sense to follow through with what


He didn’t.

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Why didn't it make sense to follow through with what Gaetz and the other 20 Reps started back then?


They did follow through. McCarthy was forced to make a few rule changes and committed to doing things in order to get the votes.

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Seems to me the country and the Right would be in much better shape than it is now.


Unfortunately, as you can see now, the good guys are too few. People like you are attacking Gaetz and the 8 at every turn. There was always going to have to be a negotiation and resulting deal. Gaetz and the 20 weren’t going to be able to get a better candidate. There’s just too many people like yourself in the Republican house.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131476 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:15 pm to
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People are lashing out because this helps Democrats.


McCarthy being a weak leader doesn’t help Republicans.
Posted by Jcpau
Member since May 2020
159 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:19 pm to
Gaetz and his party of seven did not help Republicans!
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18002 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:20 pm to
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You not wanting it has nothing to do with me. I’m just pointing it out.

Except you're wrong. I am absolutely supportive of ousting McCarthy. I was absolutely supportive of the gang of 20 in January. I was disappointed that Trump got in their way.

Why do you get so much shite wrong?

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They did follow through. McCarthy was forced to make a few rule changes and committed to doing things in order to get the votes.

The didn't follow through. Trump got some of them to relent to clear the way for McCarthy. Trump came through for the establishment. Again.

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There’s just too many people like yourself in the Republican house.

You're so full of shite, and MAGAland is chock-full of idiots like you.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 1:22 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56679 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:27 pm to
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Except you're wrong. I am absolutely supportive of ousting McCarthy. I was absolutely supportive of the gang of 20 in January. I was disappointed that Trump got in their way.


Obviously a lie so that you can tell that 2nd lie about Trump.

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The didn't follow through.


Of course they did. You just didn’t know what a realistic end was unlike Gaetz and Trump.

To say Trumo supported McCarthy is to say Biggs and the other 20 did. They accepted him with stipulations.

All of the lies to support a guy who isn’t even really campaigning anymore. Desantis is done. He’s an afterthought.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24779 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:53 pm to
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People are lashing out because this helps Democrats. That's why ALL of them voted FOR this.


The establishment Republicans have hated Trump from day 1, because Trump's supporters don't just go along to get along. They want the Republicans to stop acting like uniparty members. They want them to stop saying conservative things and then voting for huge omnibus spending bills.

At the core of their strategy to maintain power is their willingness to give up their conservative principles because of the illusion that they have no choice and that if they don't vote for compromised spending bill, the world as we know it will end.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85832 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:58 pm to
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False. People are lashing out because this helps Democrats. That's why ALL of them voted FOR this.



Explain this.

IF you have a majority, no matter how slim, and you go and make backroom deals with Democrats to get a pork pull pushed through... How is that not also "helping dems?"
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
7981 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 2:17 pm to
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Taxing Authority


Uniparty shill. Checks out.
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