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re: For once Lindsey makes sense .....

Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Jcpau
Member since May 2020
159 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:15 pm to
So the states of Texas Arizona New Mexico California and Florida should be the only ones to deal with this? How stupid can you be, it is a national issue. Your Dem buddies have created this and should get to enjoy it.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:16 pm to
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The answer is to put 500,000 troops on all 2000 miles of the border. Secure it. Put obstacles / walls over the entire thing.
yep. Governors also have the ability to shut down the border and call in the national guard. But Abbott isn’t facing pressure to do this. He’s not facing pressure because he’s being applauded by the right for stickin it to the dems
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:17 pm to
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So the states of Texas Arizona New Mexico California and Florida should be the only ones to deal with this? How stupid can you be, it is a national issue. Your Dem buddies have created this and should get to enjoy it.
you’re too retarded to be taken seriously
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:19 pm to
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Put obstacles / walls over the entire thing.

Heat sensing drones, motion detectors, vibration monitoring. This border stuff is really easy with modern technology. If there was any will.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33202 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:24 pm to
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So lindsey is in favor of ruining even more American cities? This isn't the win you think it is



Democrat run cities are already ruined. Texas taxpayers are tired of carrying this load alone. You don’t support a southern border, your taxpayers can pay their fair share.
Posted by Jcpau
Member since May 2020
159 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:26 pm to
What a jack***!
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:38 pm to
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Democrat run cities are already ruined.
You think the hordes of 5'2" migrants who can't speak english are going to stay in those cities, or does it make more sense that they would spread out to the suburbs or to other states where there are more economic opportunities for labor? Try playing this out to its logical conclusion. In 18 years their kids will be of voting age – in Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Texas, etc.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:54 pm to
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It’s not in the cards because the right is too busy cheering for Abbott to stick it to New York City voters. There’s no push to close the borders on the right.


The results are pretty simple. You should be able to grasp this:

1. Abbott sends illegals to Democrat run cities.
2. Democrats start to have to deal with the consequences themselves...having to spend more of their city and state tax dollars.
3. Democrats start bitching amongst themselves. Exhibit A: the friction between Adams and Biden.
4. Even more Democratic voters become disenchanted. They won't vote for Trump or any Republican, but they have zero enthusiasm for Biden, and many stay home in 2024.
5. Trump or another Republican wins. Remain in Mexico policy is reinstated. Further restrictions enabled.

**edited...I meant to say friction between Adams and Biden.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Jcpau
Member since May 2020
159 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:55 pm to
Who is the President? Who held majorities in the first two of his President's term? This is not about Abbot. This will not only destroy "Great Cities", it will destroy the country.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:58 pm to
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The answer is to put 500,000 troops on all 2000 miles of the border. Secure it. Put obstacles / walls over the entire thing.
yep. Governors also have the ability to shut down the border and call in the national guard.


I'm going to go wwaaaayyyyy out on a limb and say that you probably are capable of finding a couple of brain cells to rub together long enough to remember that, once upon a time, when George Wallace called out the National Guard, President Kennedy simply federalized them.

Tell us, oh wise one, what the frick good it would do to call out the Guard when Biden would just federalize them.

I mean, seriously...you're calling people retarded in this thread, but you have to be pretty fricking stupid to think that any governor can just call out the National Guard to implement a policy that the President opposes.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7179 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 3:22 pm to
In a different era, I might have dismissed this as grandstanding, but we have gotten to the point that things like this simply must be done if the federal government refuses to do its job of securing our southern border. It is manifestly outrageous that states can have their congressmen prevent the border from being sensibly enforced while leaving the burden of that refusal on places like southern Texas, New Mexico, etc.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 3:36 pm to
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I'm going to go wwaaaayyyyy out on a limb and say that you probably are capable of finding a couple of brain cells to rub together long enough to remember that, once upon a time, when George Wallace called out the National Guard, President Kennedy simply federalized them.

Tell us, oh wise one, what the frick good it would do to call out the Guard when Biden would just federalize them.

I mean, seriously...you're calling people retarded in this thread, but you have to be pretty fricking stupid to think that any governor can just call out the National Guard to implement a policy that the President opposes.


The Texas State Guard should be mobilized. They have been mobilized before, such as in 2022 when 6,000 were sent to the border. It should be done again. They should also work to better compensate, better equip and increase recruitment efforts of the state guard. This is not a new problem. No one in Texas, especially the governor, should be surprised with the need for Texas to have an independent force to protect their southern border. He should also make an attempt to mobilize the National Guard and force the Biden administration to fight that battle with him publicly. In addition:

Court ruling could overturn federal control of the National Guard
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49774 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 3:42 pm to
What the frick does sending the Guard to the border do when the democrat's Border Patrol does this?



The NG isn't keeping anyone out. The can't legally.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9014 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 3:43 pm to
Must be an election forthcoming for Linda.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 3:45 pm to
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The results are pretty simple. You should be able to grasp this:

1. Abbott sends illegals to Democrat run cities.
2. Democrats start to have to deal with the consequences themselves...having to spend more of their city and state tax dollars.
3. Democrats start bitching amongst themselves. Exhibit A: the friction between Adams and Biden.
4. Even more Democratic voters become disenchanted. They won't vote for Trump or any Republican, but they have zero enthusiasm for Biden, and many stay home in 2024.
5. Trump or another Republican wins. Remain in Mexico policy is reinstated. Further restrictions enabled.

In the past 2 years, 4-5 million immigrants have been caught at the border or escaped capture at the border. Those are the ones we know about. The ones captured were released IN in the US. America is being invaded and your answer to that is to take those people and ship them to "democrat" cities to sour those voters on lax border policies, in the hope that Trump can pull out a win in 2024.

How many times are we going to ignore the fact that the illegal immigrants who come to America eventually turn states blue? Sure, Texas and the Southwest may be completely blue in 20 years, but let's stick it to the dems so we can maybe pull out a win in 2024.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49774 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 3:47 pm to
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How many times are we going to ignore the fact that the illegal immigrants who come to America eventually turn states blue? Sure, Texas and the Southwest may be completely blue in 20 years, but let's stick it to the dems so we can maybe pull out a win in 2024.


Why are you ignoring the fact republicans are currently powerless to stop the flow at the border?

When given lemons make lemonade. That's all Abbott can do right now.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 3:49 pm to
The state governor has the authority to shut down immigration at the state border. He can also authorize the state guard to deny entry to anyone deemed hostile. Is it going to be perfect? no. But it's a start. And it's better than what we have now.

You're also completely missing the point here if you think this is about dems being soft at the border. The big money behind republican politicians (especially in border states) is completely in favor of flooding the country with more cheap labor.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 3:50 pm to
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Why are you ignoring the fact republicans are currently powerless to stop the flow at the border?
They are not powerless. They like to give that appearance though
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6673 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:36 pm to
When the reality is that Biden shipped these folks into the heart of America. Cross the border and tell Border Control where you wanted to go. They put you on the bus headed there. ...Why give Hawaii a pass because it's surrounded by water? All of the islands .....
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4186 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:39 pm to
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So lindsey is in favor of ruining even more American cities?


So you admit that open borders are a negative thing then? Because you guys have been turning the propaganda up to eleven saying that position is racist.
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