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Posted on 12/26/23 at 2:09 pm to NPComb
90% of the homeless have drug and/or alcohol addictions. Years of substance abuse changes their brain. Until you stop this as a root cause, you are wasting time and effort.
We'd need to:
- eliminate any access to addictive drugs by protecting our borders / ports from allowing illegal drugs to enter our country
- enforce laws against hard drug use/distribution
- FORCE people into rehab, productive society
None of this is going to happen. It's only going to get worse, especially now that housing costs are a higher percentage of income. We are just going to see more and more people first living in their cars, then becoming drug addicted and joining the herd. It's sad.
It is the price of living in a free society where people are allowed to make bad decisions, again and again. Why should productive society support their addictions?
We'd need to:
- eliminate any access to addictive drugs by protecting our borders / ports from allowing illegal drugs to enter our country
- enforce laws against hard drug use/distribution
- FORCE people into rehab, productive society
None of this is going to happen. It's only going to get worse, especially now that housing costs are a higher percentage of income. We are just going to see more and more people first living in their cars, then becoming drug addicted and joining the herd. It's sad.
It is the price of living in a free society where people are allowed to make bad decisions, again and again. Why should productive society support their addictions?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 2:11 pm to NPComb
Shame them.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 2:30 pm to NPComb
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What’s your solution for the homeless?
Providing access to abortion.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 3:01 pm to greenbean
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I heard Dr Drew (from Love Line) say this same thing. If takes many months of in patient rehab to successfully treat some of addition.
This family member of mine only went to rehab once. I think it was successful because of the length. I can’t remember if it was 4 or 5 months, but i know it was more than 3 because they initially said 3 months then extended it. Clearly the way it is done now (28 days on average i think) is not working with the high relapse rate. But the person came home, went back to work, makes a good living, and pays taxes. A win for society.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 3:18 pm to NPComb
Drop them in Afghanistan
Posted on 12/26/23 at 3:21 pm to NPComb
We kiss the arse of the homeless, most of whom are junkies and many are beggars and panhandlers. They contribute nothing to society. But, Shreveport has a very fancy center for the homeless - plenty of food and shelter. There are groups that take care of them.
Flip to the working poor, who work for low wages and often do the jobs no one really wants. Why don't these working people get the same level of help?
Someone on the OT said it the best - we contribute the most to the people who contribute the least to society.
Flip to the working poor, who work for low wages and often do the jobs no one really wants. Why don't these working people get the same level of help?
Someone on the OT said it the best - we contribute the most to the people who contribute the least to society.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 3:46 pm to NPComb
Joe Arpaio-style tent cities in the desert. They still wouldn't have homes, but at least they'd be kept away from decent, hard-working taxpayers just trying to go about their business without stepping in a pile of shite.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 3:53 pm to ronricks
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Pick any island and send them there. All of them. If you got rid of homeless and Illegal Immigrants crime would plunge in this country.
Hey, Great Britain did it………..now look at Australia.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 3:59 pm to Simplemaaan
quote:We have a close approximation here
Bring back insane asylums
An inane asylum
Poli Board Link (NSFHumans)
Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:28 pm to Corinthians420
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Eat them
Soylent Green
Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:41 pm to NPComb
End the Federal Reserve to stop all the bad consequences affiliated with the "foreign owned, private" bank since 1913.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:46 pm to greenbean
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Most of my experience is with homeless veterans.
I deal less with Vets as they have good resources in the area and deal with the general population more. One of the better places for Vets about 20 years ago was in a 50 mile radius of me. Knew some folks that had to call that home and the staff was really good. Makes a difference to be in the South as just seems that caregiver is more in touch with the person and it is more than just a job. I see this type of person dwindling very fast in the younger generation.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:57 pm to Simplemaaan
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Bring back asylums
Posted on 12/26/23 at 5:54 pm to nola tiger lsu
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Bring back insane asylums
This is in fact the answer. The horror stories at a few facilities ruined this whole process. Involuntary commitments are the answer, more facilities to commit individuals, less playing on emotion and more on actual wise decisions. It wont happen with social media though.
It's a harsh but absolutely true fact that some people belong locked away for the betterment of us all (and also them) even if they have not yet committed a crime.
I have often wondered about this very angle.
Given that 30,000 people are killed in car crashes every year, why don't we take away cars??? Seems like there were never 30,000 (or even 3,000) abusive deaths in asylums every year.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 5:57 pm to NPComb
All of the solutions should include:
1. Close the border and begin deportation asap.
2. Rebuild and reopen long term residential facilities for severe mental illness.
3. Increase funding for mental health treatment by 10 fold.
All that will still take 20 years to take full effect. But it is a start.
1. Close the border and begin deportation asap.
2. Rebuild and reopen long term residential facilities for severe mental illness.
3. Increase funding for mental health treatment by 10 fold.
All that will still take 20 years to take full effect. But it is a start.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 6:02 pm to SECdragonmaster
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2. Rebuild and reopen long term residential facilities for severe mental illness. 3. Increase funding for mental health treatment by 10 fold.
You could rebuild and invest in facilities. You could open drug rehab centers. Fully tax payer funded.
Problem is the courts will never support being involuntary committed. You'd never get it past legal challenge and there's no fail proof system. You'd end up getting someone committed who shouldn't be...and it'd become some scandal.
Modern America isn't prepared for the harsh realities of having to confront mental illness and drug abuse to resolve homelessness.
You'd have to take harsh style Soviet or CCP enforcement tactics to make it successful. Some individuals would not comply voluntarily.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 6:16 pm to DiamondDog
quote:Well, it is one of the inherent failures of living in a republic with voting rights. Issues like this will go unresolved because, for one, the appropriate mechanism to fix it will never be agreed upon, and two, the population, which ultimately votes, would never have the stomach to successfully address the issues.
Modern America isn't prepared for the harsh realities of having to confront mental illness and drug abuse to resolve homelessness.
I’ll admit, I am losing faith in our current system, largely due to the flaws such as this.
Now, you can’t “cure” homelessness, but you can severely curtail it through forced/involuntary hospitalization of the mentally ill and drug addicted.
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 6:23 pm to NPComb
quote:
What’s your solution for the homeless?
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