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re: How does a defense actually contain Jayden Daniels?

Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:14 am to
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If they play run, he throws a 40 yd dime.


Can he even throw the ball 40 yds through the air? Anything over 20 yards downfield had BTJ and Nabers slowing down to catch it, while the defender caught up with them.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:15 am to
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It just takes discipline, I believe "Chief" laid out the blueprint when stopping Manzel.


Big difference between Manzel and Jayden. Manziel was never a pocket passer. Chief knew this, so did I. Jayden is a pocket passer, he’s improved way more this season.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:38 am to
If you watch the Texans QB, yesterday’s game he was 20-26, 263 yards and 2TD’s. He ran 3 times for 20 yards. Jayden is about an inch taller and 8 lbs. less. It won’t take long to add a few lbs. Jayden is closer to him than most. In the NFL, it becomes a full time job. Texans went from a 3-13-1 to a 10-7 team this season. Best of luck to Jayden. An yes, I think he should be the first QB taken.
Posted by OldSchoolTiger4103
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2022
70 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:31 pm to
Definitely an elite athlete but his NFL success remains to be seen. The speed in the NFL at every position is significantly better than college. Hopefully he can sit 2-3 years before being thrown in the trenches.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6339 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:55 pm to
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One way is to have a linebacker shadow him the whole game. Although it will be extremely difficult to do that when the offense goes spread with 5 WR.

A traditional LB spy is a sure-fire way to lose a matchup every time. You have to shadow him with a DB to even have a chance, but if you do that he'll find the single coverage.
Posted by MarciMoshes
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2023
219 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:58 pm to
Force him to throw it and have better dbs/coverage than his wr's

I won't charge you for that lil tip.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42017 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 1:01 pm to
Confuse him with coverages
Contain with LB’er spies
Hit him when you can
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5190 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 2:42 pm to
he should model himself after Mahomes' style of play

do that and he'll be fine
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3952 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 2:47 pm to
I’m really looking forward to seeing what he can do in the league. I think he’ll stay healthy because seems to me he is easier to square up in the pocket than he is when he is moving — but def needs to keep the slide in mind when running up the middle.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29233 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 2:59 pm to
Someone will draft Dallas Turner for exactly that purpose. He’s already highly trained at dishing out dirty hits.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15851 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:06 pm to
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If you had Georgia’s Defense, how would you stop him?


Just like they did in the SECCG
Posted by Usm Tiger
Hattiesburg
Member since Oct 2017
146 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:10 pm to
Bruh, the NFL isnt trotting out slow and bulky linebackers anymore. There is a reason you have the new hybrid type like Kwon and White. There are plenty of lb in the league that can keep up with jayden sideline to sideline.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39650 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:17 pm to
Beat his O-Line. One of the huge keys to Daniels’ 2023 was the O-Line kept him squeaky clean. The 2023 O-Line did not run block as well as the 2019 one, but they pass blocked even better. I’d take the 2019 O-Line all things considered, but the 2023 version was damn good.

Note: I have never seen an LSU O-Line with more than 3 future NFL starters. The 2019 line had six!
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5998 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

He was the ultimate dual threat QB, better passer than Mike Vick and almost as smooth of a runner.


I've been harping on this for awhile. The level at which JD performed in a dual threat role has NEVER been replicated. I'm not going to give you a hard time for comparing to MV as that was my first comparison too but Vick is a scrub compared to JD. 5.9 yards per rush. compared to 8.4 for JD. as a passer Vick was absolutely atrocious. 8 TDs to 6 Ints his last year. I mean it's blowing my mind how bad he was and the light in which I remember him.

You have to think outside of the box to make an accurate JD comparison. He is absolutely equal if not better than Burrow in terms of measureable passing stats. The best QB rusher I could find relatively recently is Manziel and JD is a better rusher than him (stats). The best comparison is if you literally combined Burrow and Manziel into a single person. Even then, JD would be arguably better.

He is 100 percent the BEST dual threat QB ever, by a large margin.

How do you defend him? He's gonna get his so you keep your offense on the field for methodical, prolonged drives to try and prevent that. That or 13 dudes on D. Or 11 and make one of them a headhunter with zero effs to give.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3745 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:58 pm to
After a few hits from pro defenses he will be ineffective. Cannot sustain that type of offense for any length of time.
Posted by Shovelhead
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2022
269 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:00 pm to
Keep him in the pocket. Change coverages at the snap. Cover the receivers. Pressure up the middle. Don’t rush your ends too deep.
Posted by TigerLawProf
Member since Aug 2013
149 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

How does a defense actually contain Jayden Daniels

The worst NFL defenses are faster, more disciplined, and smarter than even the best college defenses.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58864 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:51 pm to
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he should model himself after Mahomes' style of play


Mahomes Dad was to be the backup for Brett Farve, till Pat got word, he had a chance at getting drafted. Pat was drafted in the 6th round.
Posted by NYT57
Northern NY
Member since Jan 2023
74 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:56 pm to
Ball control. Keep it out of his hands by grinding it out.
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