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re: No prison time for woman convicted in cannabis-induced killing

Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:06 am to
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:06 am to
White women have always and will always have the easiest lives on the planet.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38605 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:15 am to
Pics of crazy white woman and her victim.

Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5567 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:35 am to
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I don’t understand this part

Under California criminal law, people are responsible for their actions when impaired by alcohol or drugs unless their intoxication was involuntary.

The article implying she got high against her will? He hotbox her in a car or something? She said she was smoking.

This is a wild sentencing


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Spejcher testified that she asked him for a hit from the bong. He prepared it for her and she inhaled. All she felt, she told the court, was 'burning and coughing'.

Some 15 minutes later, when the effects had failed to kick in, O'Melia added more cannabis to the device, generating more smoke, and, according to Spejcher said: 'something like, let's make this more intense for you...or more f**ked up'.

In her testimony, Spejcher claimed that she did not want to smoke more but felt pressured.

'He got up from his chair and turned the bong toward my face, rushed it to my face and was pressuring me, "Hurry up, hurry up, you’ve got to inhale," she said, according to the testimony reported by the Ventura County Star.

'It all happened so fast. I felt like I couldn’t say no, and I inhaled out of the bong.'
Posted by glassart
Member since Apr 2021
302 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:48 am to
So you’re saying that roided up dude with the thick neck was scared of the pencil neck nerd? Checks out.

Big Mike is posting again.
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
5117 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:53 am to
Anything after 100 is just excessive.
Posted by tallamander34
Member since Oct 2017
933 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:44 am to
This is some crazy shite. RIP to lil homie who just wanted to smoke with his chick
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25851 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:52 am to
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How does smoking weed cause a person to completely lose their mind and go on a murderous rampage?


There is a not quite novel but new area of study into marijuana psychosis as a defense in states that have laws conducive to the defense. I have no idea if this is junk science born of possible fear-mongering or not. I will say I wouldn't be surprised that there is not a very small portion of the population that reacts badly to some doses of d-9-THC or other psychoactive chemicals in pot. I also would not be surprised that this is just being seen now due to the levels of THC seen in some modern post-strains.

I would say that she stabbed herself in the neck and then required tasing and batoning in order to take her into custody. This still leaves the issue of meeting the involuntary standard CA requires. While it is known that people can become intoxicated on various drugs involuntarily without hearing the testimony first hand I am quite dubious but do accept being bullied into dangerous amounts of alcohol is a not unheard of situation.

I am curious about the jury makeup because without doing a mock trial or deep dive I would expect the defense would want mid to old Boomers through Silent Generation jurors who are much more likely to buy a reefer madness defense.

In the end, I think there is more to the story than what appears on the face but I am very cautious of applying the defense. It is similar to the early days of the "insanity defense". This defense has the added "benefit" of not being confined in a mental institution.

Posted by Train is comin
Deer Park
Member since Sep 2020
853 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 3:23 am to
This is wild. I certainly feel for the victims family. I mean, she admitted to voluntarily using initially. Then later says she might have felt pressured into doing more? Lol, what a crock of shite and well obviously never hear the victims side of the story.
She absolutely deserved serious jail time.
Posted by AU_Nomad
AL
Member since May 2021
340 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 3:49 am to
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She absolutely deserved serious jail time.
I wholeheartedly agree.
So called justice system is bullshite.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6819 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 4:34 am to
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Under California criminal law, people are responsible for their actions when impaired by alcohol or drugs unless their intoxication was involuntary.


I'm not understanding the ruling here with regard to the above statement. It sounds like she should be help reaponsible. The statement is thrown in there like it's an explanation as to why on this ruling, but to me it seems contradictory. Am I missing something?
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10473 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:54 am to
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Pics of crazy white woman and her victim.

It’s crazy that in this day, with these particular pictures & without the obvious mugshot, you couldn’t be 100% sure which is which.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72189 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:03 am to
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In the end, I think there is more to the story than what appears on the face but I am very cautious of applying the defense. It is similar to the early days of the "insanity defense". This defense has the added "benefit" of not being confined in a mental institution.
Completely agree with this.

At the same time, MJ nowadays isn’t even remotely comparable to what we even had 20 years ago, and this is in a state where MJ is legal, likely leading to even more potent strains.

I can understand the situation where she was completely paranoid and freaked out, although stabbing someone 108 times is a bit much.

There is likely more to this.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 6:07 am
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22292 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:07 am to
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How does smoking weed cause a person to completely lose their mind and go on a murderous rampage?

It doesn't.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:08 am to
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Being an attractive white chick is the ultimate life hack.



This is why feminism gaslights you so much with "white male privilege."

Its pure projection.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:11 am to
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I am quite dubious but do accept being bullied into dangerous amounts of alcohol is a not unheard of situation.

This is not involuntary that would be if someone spiked your drink

Feeling peer pressure and succumbing is still a voluntary act
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27325 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:42 am to
This makes zero sense. If you get drunk and kill someone, you can’t blame it on the alcohol. You’re going to prison for a long time.

How is this any different at all?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51386 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:46 am to
I never expected a reefer madness defense would work
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24849 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:59 am to
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How does anyone smoke weed, and have the energy to do anything 108 times?

Sativas...
Posted by glassart
Member since Apr 2021
302 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:34 am to
Oh please get over that. Come work with me in the fields at harvest. You will mostly see white and hispanic guys. But there are lots of white women getting it done in the sheeyit conditions.

However I have NEVER seen a certain American woman ever in the fields or working cattle.

But this ain’t about “white privileged nonsensical feel gooderie”.

This is about giving little girls Big Pharma drugs that change her sex. She was obviously getting some form of testosterone. That’s not the neck of a young girl. Giving young girls massive doses of male hormones will produce homicidal rage.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76547 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:35 am to
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Bet the judge was ultra liberal. Not surprised


But at the same time, you’d think a liberal would be more likely to have personal experience with the pots and therefore know that it doesn’t make anyone violent
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