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re: Cardell Hayes guilty again
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:59 pm to DJ3K
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:59 pm to DJ3K
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Why would someone that was getting his arse beat, known to carry a gun, retreat to his car?
We will never know will we?
Hayes shot him 7 times in the BACK.
No evidence at all that Will ever had a gun in his hand. But its a fact that Hayes did.
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:59 pm to Chad504boy
Also, frick you for purposely dragging this shite topic back up.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:01 pm to whodatfan
Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:08 pm to whodatfan
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Also, frick you for purposely dragging this shite topic back up.
It’s deserved and Justice for Will Smith.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:29 pm to Chad504boy
LesterEarl takes another L on this one.
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 1/27/24 at 2:40 pm to DJ3K
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so you expected hayes to wait for Smith to get his gun before doing anything?
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DJ3K
Least surprising sub 80 iq post ever from this clown
Posted on 1/27/24 at 2:44 pm to DJ3K
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Smith drove off after rear ending Hayes because he had a blood alcohol level of 0.24, triple the legal limit.
Call a billboard lawyer instead of unloading a clip into somebody's back.
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Hayes, who was sober, followed in pursuit.
Stupid games, stupid prizes.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 3:30 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Call a billboard lawyer instead of unloading a clip into somebody's back.
Yeah bc that is the first thing that comes to someone's mind when they are in a wreck, late at night, with someone walking back to his car to retrieve a gun
quote:remind me which one is no longer here again?
Stupid games, stupid prizes.
If Smith was a regular man, who worked a boring 9 to 5 job, Hayes would be a free man bc he defended himself
Posted on 1/27/24 at 3:30 pm to DJ3K
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Smith was headed back to his car to get a firearm. Hayes had every right to protect himself for fear of being shot by a drunk former athlete known to carry a gun in his ride
Justice was not served. Free Cardell Hayes. He stood his grown
Hayes got out of his car with a gun in his hand after running into Smith following the first incident, you retard. Smith was an idiot that night, but he had every right to get his gun in case he needed to protect himself from an armed man who just ran into his car. But of course, Hayes did what thugs do and he murdered Smith.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 4:35 pm to TSLG
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Will Smith and his entourage caused this, but Cardell is still guilty.
If the roles are reversed, Smith walks.
Disagree:
If Will chased him down, confronted him, & ended up shooting him in the back several times he's in jail right now.
On the other hand, if Will shot him after being chased down & confronted, he would walk. Same for Hayes if it played out that way.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 5:13 pm to DJ3K
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If Smith was a regular man, who worked a boring 9 to 5 job, Hayes would be a free man bc he defended himself
this has got to be the dumbest fricking comment to date
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The man who gunned down New Orleans Saints defensive end Will Smith after a traffic accident in Louisiana has again been convicted of manslaughter, nearly eight years after the footballer’s death and three years after his previous conviction was thrown out.
Jurors deliberated for about five hours before they returned with a verdict just after midnight on Saturday, finding Cardell Hayes guilty of spraying Smith with bullets after a collision in New Orleans’ Lower Garden District. Hayes is facing 40 years behind bars and is slated to be sentenced in March.
During the days-long trial, which included testimony from nearly a dozen witnesses, the defense argued Hayes shot Smith in self-defense and that he feared for his life during their confrontation on April 9, 2016. John Fuller, an attorney representing Hayes, specifically pointed to a 911 call made soon after the shooting in which his client can be heard claiming Smith stated he intended to get a gun from his car.
Prosecutors meanwhile contended that Hayes intentionally rammed Smith’s Mercedes with his Hummer that night, sparking an argument between the two that would end in deadly violence. They acknowledged that Smith was intoxicated at the time of the crash as well as the fact he had a gun in his car — but prosecutors also emphasized there was no evidence to suggest Smith was armed or fired the weapon at any point during the incident.
“One gun was fired by one man,” District Attorney Jason Williams said during closing arguments on Friday, waving the evidence-tagged handgun Hayes fired. Smith was struck eight time — seven in the back — and his wife, Racquel Smith, who was in the car at the time, was also hit in her legs.
So, please explain, with evidence, his innocence for self-defense. If Smith indeed pulled a weapon from his vehicle/person and was attempting to point it, with aggression at the suspect, then I'd agree. But I don't think that was the case. I believe Hayes was premature as well as excessive in this one. Sorry
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 1/27/24 at 8:45 pm to Chad504boy
You can't shoot an unarmed man in the back 7 times and claim self defense. Fuller is a joke for trying to use this defense to get Hayes off. Even if Smith said he was going to his SUV to get a gun, Hayes has to get in his Car and leave. That's Hayes' responsibility. He wasn't trapped in an alley with no exit.
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:02 pm to DJ3K
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Hayes, who was sober, followed in pursuit.
And he shouldn’t have done that.
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Smith was headed back to his car to get a firearm. Hayes had every right to protect himself for fear of being shot by a drunk former athlete known to carry a gun in his ride
You can’t just shoot someone because they MIGHT be packing. He should have fled, not confronted him.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:25 pm to Chad504boy
I am glad Big Freida wasn’t on the jury, otherwise it would have been 11-1 and we would have been doing this all over again.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 7:19 am to Chad504boy
I saw Will Smith that very day at FQF. Was shocked to wake up and see he had been killed. RIP. Life is cheap in Nola.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 8:03 am to Honest Tune
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Life is cheap in Nola.
Truth. This happens every week. If it wasn’t Will Smith this murder would be another joke Nola thread on the OT
Posted on 1/28/24 at 8:51 am to GynoSandberg
Will Smith Jr is now a freshman defensive tackle at Ohio state.
Which would’ve made him about 10 yrs old when all this happened.
Time flies. RIP #91.
Which would’ve made him about 10 yrs old when all this happened.
Time flies. RIP #91.
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/28/24 at 10:22 am to DJ3K
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Smith drove off after rear ending Hayes because he had a blood alcohol level of 0.24, triple the legal limit. Hayes, who was sober, followed in pursuit
Smith should have stopped but also Hayes should have also stopped right there and called the cops and let the insurance company handle the damages. He’s where he deserves to be
Posted on 1/28/24 at 3:30 pm to Chad504boy
What a ridiculous waste of time, expense and resources when he was already convicted once based on laws in existence at that time.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 3:37 pm to paulb52
The law dawgs in LA need to do better work on the jury pool. Thats it.
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