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re: Tucker Carlson: why I’m interviewing Putin
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:39 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:39 pm to David_DJS
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I'm not advocating for your being banned from PT making your opinion known about TC interviewing Biden. I just don't understand your fear.
I don't fear anything. It's just a interview of convenience for Carlson and Putin. It will be a very stupid exercise to point out things that are matters of the historical record which could be referenced in any normal interview. Putin certainly doesn't care but the continued toddler logic of 'US bad, therefore Putin good' and vice-versa is getting boring. You could read a memorandum of a phone call between Yeltsin and Clinton from 1997 and see that the US position and the Russian position have largely remained the same despite all the things that have changed in each country. Why that isn't instructive of reality and why Putin's stated reasons are for invading (as if there are any good reasons to invade another sovereign country) are is another question. You can see examples of this in this thread for yourself.
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:40 pm to Heyes
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A nations leader who feels his nation is justified invading another country probably has a good argument to make and wants to make that argument known to anyone and everyone . We may or may not agree with that argument but I sure would like to hear it .
I want to hear it. I want to hear the interview and think Tucker is perfectly within his Rights to do the interview.
I just know Tucker is a just a hype man, spinster like all the other ones on MSNBC, CNN etc. He knows his audience and only repeats what they want to hear. What they WANT to be fact. So knowing Putin wouldn't allow him the interview if it wasn't perpetuating the spin that our enemy wants.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:41 pm to lake chuck fan
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People around here give their opinions on Putin and probably have never listened to him.
His actions speak louder than words. There is nothing he can say to justify the invasion of Ukraine. He wants to cry about how his puppet got deposed by a western puppet? Cry me a river! That's been the name of the game since the 1940s.
He's still mad that the USSR lost the cold war and this is his last stand before he croaks. It's a Hail Mary attempt at creating a legacy that is romanticized as much as Vladimir Lenin's.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:43 pm to GumboPot
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Zelensky can be interviewed immediately after Putin for a counter argument.
Again the answer to speech you don't like is more speech not less.
My god, you people are truly retarded. My stated position has never been that Carlson shouldn't interview Putin. My position is that I don't expect Carlson to provide the US's viewpoint on issues where the grievances are directly related to the US. I'm not even speaking of Ukraine here. Carlson is obviously not acting as the US's representative in a official capacity, but I'm not even expecting any journalistic pushback. Nor do I trust Carlson to be an accurate historian of things which are in the public record.
It's getting insane the degree to which none of you people read anything that is written, and instead, invent positions constantly to which you respond to.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:45 pm to Texas Weazel
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He wants to cry about how his puppet got deposed by a western puppet? Cry me a river! That's been the name of the game since the 1940s.
Well, we FAFO having Victoria Nuland run a coup there.
Professor Mearsheimer predicted what would happen.
LINK
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:49 pm to crazy4lsu
Journalistic push back has happened.
Is it a great show of smarts to say that Tucker is not acting as a US rep here?
Is it not retarded to say of a journalist that you don't expect him to present the US government position? Really? You don't say. You say a bunch of meandering pap that makes no cogent sense and call us retarded. I believe you are AI or just desperate.
Is it a great show of smarts to say that Tucker is not acting as a US rep here?
Is it not retarded to say of a journalist that you don't expect him to present the US government position? Really? You don't say. You say a bunch of meandering pap that makes no cogent sense and call us retarded. I believe you are AI or just desperate.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:50 pm to crazy4lsu
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I don't fear anything.
I must have misunderstood a post or two of yours (can happen), because I thought you were arguing it was risky/irresponsible for TC to do this interview.
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You can see examples of this in this thread for yourself.
Okay, but what's the problem with it? If there's bad information or lies out there, that can be pointed out/argued.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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My god, you people are truly retarded. My stated position has never been that Carlson shouldn't interview Putin. My position is that I don't expect Carlson to provide the US's viewpoint on issues where the grievances are directly related to the US. I'm not even speaking of Ukraine here. Carlson is obviously not acting as the US's representative in a official capacity, but I'm not even expecting any journalistic pushback. Nor do I trust Carlson to be an accurate historian of things which are in the public record.
It's getting insane the degree to which none of you people read anything that is written, and instead, invent positions constantly to which you respond to.
But you have to be self-aware that your tone is adversarial to the idea of Tucker interviewing Putin, because it is. Look at it as an opportunity. When Tucker doesn't push back hard enough against Putin, probably so he can safely leave Russia, you can start threads showing us the gaps in Tuckers interview and how Putin's positions are wrong or right.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:52 pm to Indefatigable
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Then you’re a fricking moron if you think that’s new. Foreign governments have “interfered” and tried to influence every Presidential election we have ever held.
Even bigger news flash for the sheeple is the US Government has been doing this overtly for years. The US DoS actions in an election has directly lead to the situation in Ukraine.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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My stated position has never been that Carlson shouldn't interview Putin. My position is that I don't expect Carlson to provide the US's viewpoint on issues where the grievances are directly related to the US.
Exactly.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:54 pm to Proximo
If Tucker does this interview properly it should reveal a lot about Putin and the Russian view on why the invasion of Ukraine was necessary. We all have our beliefs on why Russia invaded Ukraine but it would be a good thing to allow Putin to air all the Russian grievances against the EU, the US and NATO, this would allow Trump, if he is elected president in 2024 plenty of time to formulate some type of diplomatic solution......if that's possible.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:54 pm to Texas Weazel
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His actions speak louder than words. There is nothing he can say to justify the invasion of Ukraine. He wants to cry about how his puppet got deposed by a western puppet? Cry me a river! That's been the name of the game since the 1940s.
NATO, UN, WEF, WHO.... All globalists with the same plan for a new world order. THAT'S the reason Bidens administration handled things this way.
You only see this thru the narrative you've been fed. Step back and look into information that hasn't been regurgitated by the corrupt media.
Or don't.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:54 pm to AGGIES
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Would be nice if a journalist pushed back on Putin’s misinformation and held him to answer tough follow up questions.
It would be nice if domestic journalists did the same thing with this current administration…
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:56 pm to GumboPot
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When Tucker doesn't push back hard enough against Putin, probably so he can safely leave Russia, you can start threads showing us the gaps in Tuckers interview and how Putin's positions are wrong or right.
Right. Seems he'd be licking his chops for a clear contemporaneous example of this that he can point to and that everyone here would be able to readily see, versus just this vague assertion that such information from Putin is already "out there" in some other various amalgamations from the past.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:57 pm to David_DJS
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I must have misunderstood a post or two of yours (can happen), because I thought you were arguing it was risky/irresponsible for TC to do this interview.
It is the same level of journalistic responsibility that we get from our mainstream media in general. Which is a pitfall of a profit-driven media.
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Okay, but what's the problem with it? If there's bad information or lies out there, that can be pointed out/argued.
Well, given the last few years, trying an objective, fact-based approach isn't the strategy to use to win people's minds. It is just a curious feature of modern media why Russian viewpoints about NATO expansion, for example, are in the Western mainstream, when those claims were expressed by the Russians and rebutted by the US and allies in the 1990's, with endless documents and diplomatic cables which all say the same thing. Yet that documentary evidence isn't enough to sway opinion that the US made some vague promise to the Russians about NATO expansion.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 4:59 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Professor Mearsheimer predicted what would happen.
LINK
It won't matter to them. Their minds are closed, to consider their country is not always the beacon of light, somehow will damage their worldview. Sheep can't handle that
Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:07 pm to GumboPot
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But you have to be self-aware that your tone is adversarial to the idea of Tucker interviewing Putin, because it is. Look at it as an opportunity. When Tucker doesn't push back hard enough against Putin, probably so he can safely leave Russia, you can start threads showing us the gaps in Tuckers interview and how Putin's positions are wrong or right.
Isn't the fact that Carlson's safety may be in danger depending on the interview evidence in of itself? I didn't mention his safety, as it would be utterly insane for a foreign leader to actually do something to a journalist doing an interview.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:08 pm to Powerman
quote:Compared to Zelenskyy?
So whatever Putin says is the truth?
Do you think our government and Zelenskyy are telling us the truth? What’s even the point of your post?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:09 pm to lake chuck fan
Think it would be safe for Tucker to swing through Ukraine, on his way back from the Putin interview?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:12 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Tough shite.
and will likely improve Putin's standing with people who don't like the media
Blame the media.
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