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#24 in the country at 7-6....in 2023

Right behind Arkansas and ahead of Ole Miss. And bout 13k more than WVU...

And if you want to compare to SEC and Big 10, these are the schools we had better attendance: Ole Miss, Kentucky, Missouri, Purdue, Oregon, Miss St, Illinois, Rutgers, Minnesota, UCLA, Indiana, Maryland

All time wins in college football, if you are only counting the P5, we would be 18th all time...a whopping 9 wins behind WVU...but a better win average than our lovely brethren from Morgantown.

As for NOVA, VT is by far and away the dominant school in the area...what school is on the largest radio station WJFK...hint...not UVA, WVU, MD...

Who knows where VT will end up due to politics...but if it was football alone...VT would be a solid #3 behind FSU and Clemson. Miami has more history...but only time their stadium is full when a good travelling teams go there.

Of course I would love for VT to be in the SEC...but I still think when this is all said and done, big time football will not be SEC or Big 10...but whatever the new name for the football league.

Agreed, Virginia is a growing state and VT is the football brand in that there. I spend a lot of time in NOVA and I see more VT plates, flags, clothes, etc than any other school. If they get back to recruiting the Tidewater like they did under Beamer, they could rebound quickly. They let Frank hold onto long and then made a bad hire with Fuentes. That put them behind, but in the ACC they could get back to the top in short order.

Now if they were to go to the SEC, I think they'd struggle. I get you want to be where the money and access are, but it comes with a price. Would they compete with the big dogs week in and out, probably not. I say the same thing to my fellow WVU fans who want to be in the SEC. Yes, it's better to be in the club than left out, but you'll most likely struggle against the bigger brands. In the ACC VT to me is a top 3-5 football brand, in the SEC they'd be behind a lot big name programs.