- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
So I’m Just Back From Seeing “Dune II” & IMO, It Was Phenomenal Piece of Hollywood Magic..
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:29 pm
The film captures perfectly the sense of magisterial history imbuing Frank Herbert’s mythos and is a sprawling Hollywood epic in every sense of the word.
The film masterfully encapsulates all the major motifs found in Herbert’s source material without diluting the socio-philosophical import of these grand themes: drug addiction as a means of societal control; the psychic toll of psychotropic induced mysticism; the inherent desire of humans to seek messiahs; how rulers manipulate the faithful for political control; the antagonism between faith & reason in daily life; the clash between secularist and fundamentalist world views; the authoritarian nature of mass political movements; ancient feudal disputes between opposing elite political houses; wars of a strained colonial empire; and the tension between matriarchal intuition/calculation vs. patriarchal decisiveness/action.
Is the movie fully faithful to Herbert’s narrative? No.
The female character Chani — a tribal native — is given a more prominent role and acts as the film’s moral critic of the story’s protagonist (and noble born) Paul Atreides’ ambiguous quest to fulfill his chosen role as a political/spiritual messiah.
Yet noteworthy in this era of “woke” Disneyfied Mary Sues: though the actress playing Chani was a strong and powerful female lead, not once did I feel I was being preached to by a moral superior but instead was witnessing a conflicted and wholly believable female character confronting the complex sexual politics that rules the universe of Dune.
Why a mention here on the PB?
Because I think it is important that a film which is not consumed with being woke but instead tries to transcend the partisan disputes of the current day in exploration of larger philosophical themes should reach a wide audience and be rewarded at the box office for that goal.
The film masterfully encapsulates all the major motifs found in Herbert’s source material without diluting the socio-philosophical import of these grand themes: drug addiction as a means of societal control; the psychic toll of psychotropic induced mysticism; the inherent desire of humans to seek messiahs; how rulers manipulate the faithful for political control; the antagonism between faith & reason in daily life; the clash between secularist and fundamentalist world views; the authoritarian nature of mass political movements; ancient feudal disputes between opposing elite political houses; wars of a strained colonial empire; and the tension between matriarchal intuition/calculation vs. patriarchal decisiveness/action.
Is the movie fully faithful to Herbert’s narrative? No.
The female character Chani — a tribal native — is given a more prominent role and acts as the film’s moral critic of the story’s protagonist (and noble born) Paul Atreides’ ambiguous quest to fulfill his chosen role as a political/spiritual messiah.
Yet noteworthy in this era of “woke” Disneyfied Mary Sues: though the actress playing Chani was a strong and powerful female lead, not once did I feel I was being preached to by a moral superior but instead was witnessing a conflicted and wholly believable female character confronting the complex sexual politics that rules the universe of Dune.
Why a mention here on the PB?
Because I think it is important that a film which is not consumed with being woke but instead tries to transcend the partisan disputes of the current day in exploration of larger philosophical themes should reach a wide audience and be rewarded at the box office for that goal.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:38 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
Why a mention here on the PB?
Because I think it is important that a film which is not consumed with being woke but instead tries to transcend the partisan disputes of the current day in exploration of larger philosophical themes should reach a wide audience and be rewarded at the box office for that goal.
"He just showed up & wanted to say "Hi!"."
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:40 pm to Toomer Deplorable
The spice must flow
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:41 pm to Toomer Deplorable
It was pretty good
skipped around it seems....weird editing.
Not really a Dune person but it was def cinematic
skipped around it seems....weird editing.
Not really a Dune person but it was def cinematic
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:50 pm to Toomer Deplorable
there is a movie board for this.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:54 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Just saw it. It might be the best piece of science fiction I ever saw, and I saw Star Wars in the theater as a kid. Watched it in IMAX and it was worth the price of the ticket. Just an amazing experience.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:10 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
The female character Chani
Zendaya, Spiderman's woman. I'm a fan.
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:13 pm to Toomer Deplorable
quote:
The female character Chani — a tribal native — is given a more prominent role and acts as the film’s moral cri
Let’s deviate from the true source work and give a female minority a more prominent role and have her speak on morality
quote:
Because I think it is important that a film which is not consumed with being woke
Ooooook lol
Posted on 3/3/24 at 2:26 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Was it better than the first? Because that was like watching paint dry
Posted on 3/3/24 at 3:55 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Welp, saw the movie. Good crowd too, for a Sunday afternoon. About 1/2 full, I'd guess. Fans, from what I could tell.
Now, I'm not a book reader, so much of what I know is only from onscreen.
Spoiler: I was today years old when I discovered that the Weirding Way as shown in the '84 movie wasn't from the book. Damn! So there's that. What can I say, I'm not deep into the DUNE fandom.
I didn't care for seeing Sam Brinton in the role of Feyd-Rautha, that was so well played by Sting. That creeped me out. In fact, the entire Harkonnen world weirded me out. Zero color on the entire planet? What's that about? And apparently I've been mispronouncing the name for 40 years. Harkon-nen, not Har-KO-Nan? Whatever.
Still a decent flick well-made and all. I guess my biggest beef of all was Zendaya. She's terribly mid, imo. She's older than Sydney Sweeney but will always look like a gawky 13 yr old girl in my eyes. But it is what it is. The kids apparently dig her.
*Two more things - Sandworms. How can they be some great test for a true Fremen to call and ride on if they're also used like a planetary rapid transit system? There was some crazy GoT dragon commuting going on that seemed a bit sketchy. How far South is "South" anyways? And what's keeping the worms from diving underground to avoid the storms? Did I miss something?
** Paul's drinking of the Water of Life. I really preferred the '84 version to how it was done in this movie. One was much more dramatic than the other.
Now, I'm not a book reader, so much of what I know is only from onscreen.
Spoiler: I was today years old when I discovered that the Weirding Way as shown in the '84 movie wasn't from the book. Damn! So there's that. What can I say, I'm not deep into the DUNE fandom.
I didn't care for seeing Sam Brinton in the role of Feyd-Rautha, that was so well played by Sting. That creeped me out. In fact, the entire Harkonnen world weirded me out. Zero color on the entire planet? What's that about? And apparently I've been mispronouncing the name for 40 years. Harkon-nen, not Har-KO-Nan? Whatever.
Still a decent flick well-made and all. I guess my biggest beef of all was Zendaya. She's terribly mid, imo. She's older than Sydney Sweeney but will always look like a gawky 13 yr old girl in my eyes. But it is what it is. The kids apparently dig her.
*Two more things - Sandworms. How can they be some great test for a true Fremen to call and ride on if they're also used like a planetary rapid transit system? There was some crazy GoT dragon commuting going on that seemed a bit sketchy. How far South is "South" anyways? And what's keeping the worms from diving underground to avoid the storms? Did I miss something?
** Paul's drinking of the Water of Life. I really preferred the '84 version to how it was done in this movie. One was much more dramatic than the other.
This post was edited on 3/3/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/3/24 at 7:50 pm to Toomer Deplorable
I thought it was kinda boring and gay.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News