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re: This Is The Most Popular Thing On Reddit Right Now
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:02 pm to Grigio
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:02 pm to Grigio
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Funny how Bernie was the savior of the old commies and young socialists. Then he sold them out for a few bucks. And hasn't done a god damn thing in 8 years on their behalf.
Bernie needs to do some reading.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:04 pm to LuckyTiger
Some countries already have a 32 work week. There has been studies that people are more productive. This would not work in my current position but could benefit others.
The U.S. is behind the curve unfortunately.
The U.S. is behind the curve unfortunately.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:06 pm to LuckyTiger
How are they going to enforce this?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:10 pm to ronricks
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lots of folks will be out of jobs in the next 10 to 15 years. It's coming.
Probably. Then they'll be hired back as temps when the machines break down.
The penny pinchers running companies now are as short sighted as the bureaucrats running government agencies. Since the crash in 2008 they've been cutting, cutting, cutting expenses to make pretty reports for investors and keeping stock prices up. They've cut equipment maintenance down to "run to failure" levels. They're balancing minimum staffing with needed overtime coverage. Now my employer is holding off on 401k company match till year end so they can use that cash during the year.
Those cuts will never be reversed.
And while they're cutting production expenses they're blowing millions on company wide feel good initiatives or integrating operator controls with the company network so some psycho in a board room can monitor production numbers on a piece of equipment on the other side of the planet in real time.. as if that data will do anything but make the psycho feel important.
I've been hearing corporate wet dreams of automated/robotic/AI equipment for years. And it'll happen. HAS happened in some of our plants. But every time... They won't take the savings on labor and reinvest it back into maintaining the magical equipment. It's now needed to prop up the stock price. Then the equipment breaks and they hire people to do the broken equipment's job.
Big companies are as stupid and inefficient as big governments.
Meh, rant over.. and so is my break.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:10 pm to BoudinChicot
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Humans have worked on reducing the amount of labor needed for survival since early agricultural times. In modern post industrial times we have filled that gap with needless bureaucratic and administrative tasks.
Now that we're almost to that point with automation, why not enjoy the fruits of that labor?
Agreed, but you're a little off on your point. "Businesses" work on procedures to increase safety and effectiveness, as a whole, for the profit of the company. "Employees" using tools and/or technology to be more valuable to the company. Now, it's up to you whether or not to share your new skill with your boss/company. I usually enjoy the reduction in stress, in silence, until I'm ready to negotiate for the larger raise.
In my opinion, these proposed 32 hour work weeks will just cause companies to hire more employees, and reduce the pay through natural attrition or reduce staff to do more with less. This "perfect world" scenario the left is looking for just isn't realistic and is just a carrot leading to more disruption.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:12 pm to DUKE87
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Some countries already have a 32 work week. There has been studies that people are more productive. This would not work in my current position but could benefit others.
The U.S. is behind the curve unfortunately.
Fair enough. Lets compare those economies to ours and see which would be more benificial? We are behind the times, I often hear the same thing from universal healthcare proponents lol. Let's be more like Cuba.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:13 pm to LuckyTiger
Sanders is a populist. This is the sort of thing a populist says.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:15 pm to jizzle6609
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We are the laziest country in the world,
Do you even siesta bro?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:03 pm to LuckyTiger
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This Is The Most Popular Thing On Reddit Right Now
Weird, I was told the joos wanted people working more so Isreal could get more money from America...
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:05 pm to LuckyTiger
I would love it as would any sane individual. But the downside of paying the same for less work just isn’t feasible in our country
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:06 pm to GumboPot
quote:For the same reason that there should not be a "minimum wage."
The federal government should not be regulating the workweek regardless if it’s 32 or 40.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:06 pm to jizzle6609
quote:You’re fricking high. Have you ever been to France or any of the Western European nations?
We are the laziest country in the world
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:00 pm to LuckyTiger
AI and automation will work 24x7x365
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:19 pm to Bottom9
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I'm also looking forward to getting fired when boss tells me to work extra hours in a week to meet crucial deadlines and I say na, I met my 32 homie
Bottom, get through the cpa, and demand you only work 32 hours for the same pay.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:22 pm to DUKE87
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Some countries already have a 32 work week. There has been studies that people are more productive. This would not work in my current position but could benefit others.
The U.S. is behind the curve unfortunately.
Id like to see the data on this.
Think about a country that doesnt work like us. Spain. Some places dont even reopen after siesta.
When you go to these places and see they dont work you realize why they have less money than us.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:29 pm to LuckyTiger
Why do you people like to work so much? It's odd.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:35 pm to Mo Jeaux
No one is making you work so much.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:30 pm to GumboPot
For the most part, the employer is in the power position in this negotiation. While you might believe that doesn’t apply to yourself, I’d say it likely applies to 60-80% of the workforce, so when they exercise that power and refuse to employ anyone not willing to work 60+ hours a week without any type of overtime, most would be fricked.
How’d the free market work back in the 20s and 30s when work conditions were needlessly dangerous and many workers worked 6-7 days a week, because the employer told them to.
I’m all for small government, but to act like the free market is perfect is asinine.
How’d the free market work back in the 20s and 30s when work conditions were needlessly dangerous and many workers worked 6-7 days a week, because the employer told them to.
I’m all for small government, but to act like the free market is perfect is asinine.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:00 pm to ronricks
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Automation, AI, and Robotics are going to decimate the American workforce in the coming years.
This isn’t something new. Tractors, cotton pickers, gins, mills and all types of industrial machinery have been decimating work forces for centuries.
Much of the poverty in the Delta is due to ag equipment replacing farm workers. The population is too great for the amount of jobs available.
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