re: Getting contacted by work during vacation

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if I was doing an hour or more of work it was not a vacation day in terms of PTO

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Exactly what I tell me team.

If you have 8 hours of PTO in and you do :30 minutes of work, change it to 4 hours of PTO. If you work 4 hours and 30 minutes of work, remove all the PTO.

Repeat offenders is a clear indication of those that are not handling their workload well and it steers our devleopment of them.

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I am under the impression that most people work under some type of management.

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they also have responsibilities, some of which cannot be shared with everyone.

So they take care of business prior to leaving or deal with it as it arises. this will probably blow your mind, but many of us work with very time sensitive things.

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no one else in my company does my job and that's not very unique.

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So again, what happens if you die this very minute or become incapacitated?

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It's also called wage theft and it's illegal.

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I'm hesitant to call it that in a blanket statement. A lot of people in the thread have pointed out that they don't mind working on some of their vacation because their job doesn't fuss if they skip out half a day and play golf. I wouldn't say that's wage theft if they're asked to work "unpaid" or time theft if they don't take PTO to go play golf. That's just their agreement.

Now, the employers who want to have their cake and eat it too are what you're describing. Show up 15 minutes early, sit your arse at your desk so I can micromanage you until your scheduled time ends, THEN you still need to be on call? Nah.

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So they take care of business prior to leaving or deal with it as it arises. this will probably blow your mind, but many of us work with very time sensitive things.

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I know you're trying to be condescending because that's your default when people disagree with you, but I literally just described doing just this in my own job in a previous post. I also work with "time sensitive things". But I'm also human and don't live to work.

There's no job worth not ever being able to take time off.

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Same here, I’m the only one that works with a certain project. No one else, even my so called boss, would have any idea how to answer questions that come in while I’m on vacation.

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I have 5 other co-workers that are my peers, but there are definitely some things that I know that none of them do. Some of that is simply that I've been here a lot longer than most of them.

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So again, what happens if you die this very minute or become incapacitated?

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No one worries about it until it actually happens.

You nailed it.

Also, everyone is replaceable in this working world. No matter how good you are at your job you are replaceable so thats another reason why i would not answer if i were on vacation

If you have a major roll in the company, and haven't taken the steps to say who to go to in certain cases then you can't be pissed if they call.


If it's trivial stuff b/c the manager can't operate on their own then that's their fault. If they expect you to work on your vacation then you should immediately request a raise. You're clearly of value.

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I know you're trying to be condescending

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Thats a very low level of expectation, which most of us men have crossed many times, yet you consider it "condescending."

That's disturbing within itself.

I can tell youve never really worked in a competitive environment.