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Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:19 pm to BCLA
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Worst part is they passed that tax in like 2007 and they're still paying for it.
Sounds like you're the one paying for it, not us.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:56 pm to Pels318
They can let their teams be like the Houston Oilers. Gone in 1996. Did Houston's citizens have to build a new stadium anyway to get the Texans?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:05 pm to Horsemeat
quote:I agree. I love Kauffman. I think hunts pulling some strings in the background because he wants Truman to himself.
Royals have zero reason to relocate. None. I've been to Kaufmann several times, it's a great ballpark.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:07 pm to SirWinston
These teams value has skyrocketed and no reason these teams shouldn’t foot the bill
Taxpayers are paying more for basic services
I think a nfl team can afford to renovate their own stadium
On top of that it’s not like the nfl is dying to host multiple super bowls in that venue
Taxpayers are paying more for basic services
I think a nfl team can afford to renovate their own stadium
On top of that it’s not like the nfl is dying to host multiple super bowls in that venue
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:27 pm to Pedro
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think hunts pulling some strings in the background because he wants Truman to himself.
The Hunts & the Chiefs wanted the entirety of the Truman Sports Complex to themselves. They had grand ideas for a destination within a destination for Arrowhead. Upscale shopping and dining paired with multiple hotels and entertainment venues.
It was dirty pool from the get go. If you’re from the KC area or have ties, the Royals ownership and minority ownership had deep ties to all that property East of the Downtown Crossroads district and had already had a massive tax abatement come and go with all that property essentially being dormant for the last decade.
A glaring red flag was the Chiefs and the Royals and their inner circle spent 20x’s the amount on their propaganda campaign of “vote yes” than the “vote No” proponents.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:31 am to Boomdaddy65201
Chiefs will cut the Royals loose. Someone in both camps wasn’t thinking. First of all, the Chiefs tying themselves down with the Royals plans for Crossroads. Second, the Royals think they’d capitalize on the Crossroads “aura “, but they would just kill it. I know at least a couple dozen people who love First Friday and frequent the area on other days, and they don’t give a single frick about the Royals. Never have, never will. Crossroads is fine as it is.
Royals think they’ll replay the P&L but they won’t. Let Johnson or Wyandotte country take them. Keep the Chiefs.
Royals think they’ll replay the P&L but they won’t. Let Johnson or Wyandotte country take them. Keep the Chiefs.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:37 am to Pels318
Who owns the stadiums in this deal?
The Jags owner wants to split costs 50/50 for the new stadium/stadium remodel they are proposing, and the city will own it. Seems like a decent deal for Jacksonville.
The Jags owner wants to split costs 50/50 for the new stadium/stadium remodel they are proposing, and the city will own it. Seems like a decent deal for Jacksonville.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:49 am to VolSquatch
quote:honestly, that's pretty fair, if the city knows they can get their moneys worth out of it.
The Jags owner wants to split costs 50/50 for the new stadium/stadium remodel they are proposing, and the city will own it. Seems like a decent deal for Jacksonville.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:54 am to Kcprogguitar
quote:wasnt there an east village plan? That wouldnt be bad.
Chiefs will cut the Royals loose. Someone in both camps wasn’t thinking. First of all, the Chiefs tying themselves down with the Royals plans for Crossroads. Second, the Royals think they’d capitalize on the Crossroads “aura “, but they would just kill it. I know at least a couple dozen people who love First Friday and frequent the area on other days, and they don’t give a single frick about the Royals. Never have, never will. Crossroads is fine as it is.
Royals think they’ll replay the P&L but they won’t. Let Johnson or Wyandotte country take them. Keep the Chiefs.
They couldve done something along the river where that stupid kc current stadium (its a nice stadium i just dont see the need for it) is too.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:55 am to Pels318
Trickle down economics my arse. frick the billionaire owners.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:05 am to Plainview
Building a stadium or arena in your city to draw in a new team is a great investment if you don’t have a team in that sport or any of the big 4 really.
Paying to renovate or build them an entirely new one is a bad deal.
Green Bay has renovated and expanded Lambeau numerous times and to my knowledge hasn’t used tax money to do so.
Paying to renovate or build them an entirely new one is a bad deal.
Green Bay has renovated and expanded Lambeau numerous times and to my knowledge hasn’t used tax money to do so.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:20 am to Dairy Sanders
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Green Bay has renovated and expanded Lambeau numerous times and to my knowledge hasn’t used tax money to do so.
Your knowledge is incomplete.
Prior to the major 2003 renovation, Brown County voters approved a 0.5% sales tax on Sept. 12, 2000, by a 53%-47% margin after a contentious campaign. The tax, which was retired in September 2015, provided $309.5 million to the Green Bay-Brown County Professional Football Stadium District, an average of $20.6 million per year.
Lambeau Field Sales Tax Still Pays Dividends
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:27 pm to BRich
Fair enough. Still think that the owners should pay for their own stadiums and upgrades unless they are going to give up some sort of control or share revenue from events held there.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:29 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:same
Fair enough. Still think that the owners should pay for their own stadiums and upgrades unless they are going to give up some sort of control or share revenue from events held there.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:22 pm to wildtigercat93
I feel like if the public is footing the bill for these stadiums the teams should dramatically lower prices for tickets, parking, and concessions. It's fricking bull shite how much it costs to go to a Chiefs game. Then once you get in the door they continue fricking you with overpriced shitty hot dogs, beverages, etc.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:32 pm to Pedro
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honestly, that's pretty fair, if the city knows they can get their moneys worth out of it.
it's a terrible deal for the city
City is on the hook for all maintenance, upgrades, etc. It adds up quickly, especially for a sport that only plays 8 fricking home games.
Several cities took over stadiums and realized, it's a money pit of expenses, and they have to compete and upgrade, or risk teams whining and threatening to leave.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 5:03 pm to Kcprogguitar
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Chiefs will cut the Royals loose. Someone in both camps wasn’t thinking. First of all, the Chiefs tying themselves down with the Royals plans for Crossroads. Second, the Royals think they’d capitalize on the Crossroads “aura “, but they would just kill it. I know at least a couple dozen people who love First Friday and frequent the area on other days, and they don’t give a single frick about the Royals. Never have, never will. Crossroads is fine as it is.
Royals think they’ll replay the P&L but they won’t. Let Johnson or Wyandotte country take them. Keep the Chiefs.
Imagine that stadium footprint and then imagine Brewery Row on a Royals weekend series.....the parking already can be difficult but if a stadium is there in the Crossroads district there will be no parking for the patrons visiting Brewery Row.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:58 pm to Pels318
Make Taylor Swift pay for the Chiefs new home
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:28 pm to Cosmo
Ummm ye you can. Follow the same model as Truist Park in ATL. I don't know who owns it, but that place makes hella money. Tons of restaurants and bars inside the park and it is always packed
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