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re: Southern U.S. Severe Weather & Flooding: April 8-11, 2024

Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:31 am to
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10573 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:31 am to
Some nasty weather up in Shreveport this morning
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
7723 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:34 am to
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Some nasty weather up in Shreveport this morning


It’s crazy. Looking at the radar, we’ve had red or orange on us or immediately around us since 9:30 last night. And it looking like it will stay that way for most of today.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40164 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:49 am to
The one cell that made its way from narnia to the DFW airport woke me up this morning. Sounded like Katrina outside

Good luck to my LA folks tm. 15% hatch window nothing to like.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42849 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:28 am to
I do wonder if SPC is being a bit too aggressive pulling the trigger on a moderate risk already.
Posted by purple18
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
898 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:35 am to
School closures coming in 3...2..1
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203440 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:38 am to
It’s gonna be crappy tomorrow . I can see the schools closing. Torcon value is like 7 for the BR area.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71382 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:54 am to
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It’s gonna be crappy tomorrow


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dukke v


Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54801 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:34 am to
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I do wonder if SPC is being a bit too aggressive pulling the trigger on a moderate risk already.

It is more of a forcing question. We have the high end wind probability due to the QLCS/MCS that will definitely be working it's way into the area tomorrow. That has high confidence. The main driver for the tornado threat is whether or not we will see storms develope ahead of that line, or will forccing be too strong and lead to a messier storm mode. If storms fire ahead of the main line they have a good environment to work in. That environment should be an open warm sector that hasn't been sapped with earlier storms and rain, with good moisture, strong shear, and decent CAPE.

A wind-driven Mod seems at least reasonable right now with strong tor probs being a little more conditional.

ETA: I'd keep an eye on any storms/rain development in the area today and overnight. That may limit tomorrow's ceiling, or give boundaries to worry with later on. Also, watch how CAMs handle the surface low and the shape of the trough. If that surface low deepens as it moves east and the trough can amplify and take on a negative tilt look, that'll increase the ceiling for tomorrow, I think.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 11:39 am
Posted by Mr Roboto
Rural Mississippi
Member since Jan 2023
1286 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Torcon value is like 7 for the BR area.

What does this even mean? According to SPC there is a 15% chance of a tornado within 25 miles of any point in the moderate area. TWC tries to make it sound like a 70% chance with that idiotic scale they use.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203440 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:07 pm to
I realize this. TWC overhyped
Everything.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33693 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:07 pm to
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TWC tries to make it sound like a 70% chance with that idiotic scale they use.
according to the explanation of it online i think thats what it actually means which is completely idiotic.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54801 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:36 pm to
The good news about tomorrow is that the area of concern is pretty well defined. The boundary we see today where the storms and rain are located should cap the northern extent of the greatest threat. The bad news is that, man is it a tricky and messy forecast.

I think the best chance for discrete/semi-discrete storms will be from any remnant outflow boundaries left from the mess that moves East today and tonight. This would be a late morning/early afternoon threat across the Moderate area. The other elevated threat for tornadoes could come if we see a broken line of storms along the front as it moves into the area. Even outside of a tornado threat, the wind probabilities on the outlook suggest 80mph+ winds with storms along that line.

The warm sector gets kind of pinched off as the system moves East into east MS/west AL, so there shouldn't be as much of a chance for storms out ahead of the line, unless we get a storm or two that become front runners. They could pose a long track tornado threat. So, farther east the main threat should be the line itself.
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:10 pm to
Legend, what’s your take on how severe things may get this evening and overnight in North LA? The only consensus I can pick up from various sources is torrential rain.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11566 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:27 pm to
The storms were noisy with heavy rainfall but nothing else - just south of the Red River - I44 corridor
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54801 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:31 pm to
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Legend, what’s your take on how severe things may get this evening and overnight in North LA? The only consensus I can pick up from various sources is torrential rain.

Torrential rain is a given. HRRR keeps it pretty socked in with a stronger line moving through this evening with decent wind. NAM clears it out more with a better chance for scattered cells, but I don't know that I buy that, and SPC seems to lean toward the HRRR solution with wind and maybe some embedded rotations being the main threat into the night. Some areas could see pretty significant rain totals.
Posted by louisianamotocross
Member since Sep 2023
90 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:42 pm to
I’ll be shocked in schools all across Louisiana don’t start canceling soon.
Posted by purple18
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
898 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:49 pm to
We haven’t had this level of threat in awhile. They’ve canceled for less not to mention the timing in the Lafayette area is the time when most kids would be arriving to school
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33208 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:56 pm to
Interesting when Reed Timmer is rolling around Louisiana.

LINK
Posted by questionable
FL
Member since Apr 2008
1024 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:04 pm to
Agreed, I don’t know what they are waiting for. No one wants to be first I guess. Would be nice to have time to secure a babysitter or cancel meetings and whatnot.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54801 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:05 pm to
Reed is starting to annoy me a bit. I understand he's playing the algorithm game, but not every day of every severe weather setup is a "TORNADO OUTBREAK!!!!!!".
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