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re: "Conservatives" agree to new entitlement program costing hundreds of millions per year
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:37 pm to Zach
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:37 pm to Zach
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t's a mix of state and parish. My parish is property taxes
Correct. Your property taxes are local. The money the state pays for education comes from the general fund, not any special dedicated funding source. (insert joke about the lottery(
You can say you pay $3,721.23 per year in property taxes to the schools, but you can't say how much you pay in state taxes to the schools.
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:39 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Part of that differnece is cost of living
The fact that this even had to be stated.
Comparing the highest COL state in the country to Utah.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:40 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Um, sending your kid to public school is mandaded by law unless you pay for an alternative.
People continue to send their kids to public schools, too
quote:You are seriously comparing cumpulsory attendance to voluntarily doing business somewhere.
I guess they are as successful as Walmart and McDonald’s in your eyes, which is a testament to their effectiveness, right?
quote:Um.............what happens if a parent doesn't send their child to public school and their child isn't enrolled in some alternative such as private or home school?
After all, last I checked, no one kidnaps anyone and forces their kids to go to public schools but most kids still end up there.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:40 pm to meansonny
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If private schools cannot meet the standard within your own state constitution, then they should not siphon off resources either.
If the government doesn't collect the money then they won't have to redistribute the money and some of the thieves in the government will lose their jobs.
Win Win Win
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Go ahead. frick up your private schools, too
At least you admit that the government run schools are fricked up.
The bastards should have fixed the schools if they didn't want an exodus.
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so they can get a piece of the government tit.
Again - quit collecting the taxes and there will be no refunding it - what you call being on the government tit.
It will be a big win if the government can't continue to pocket money for services they aren't providing and they can't force kids to take DIE and LGBTQ classes.
Big win!
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:40 pm to 4cubbies
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Comparing the highest COL state in the country to Utah.
Should it take twice the money to educate kids out of Utah?
Louisiana spends more than Utah.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:41 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Part of that differnece is cost of living
Is Louisiana that much higher cost of living than Utah?
Because LA spends about 5k more per student, per year.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Which is precisely the reason it needs competition, to set market prices.
Public schools already compete with each other and private schools.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:43 pm to 4cubbies
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Public schools already compete with each other and private schools.
No, they do not. Most kids are stuck in their neighborhood school.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The money the state pays for education comes from the general fund, not any special dedicated funding source.
You can say you pay $3,721.23 per year in property taxes to the schools, but you can't say how much you pay in state taxes to the schools.
But you do pay taxes to the state of Louisiana that then go into the general fund, right?
You may not be able to calculate a precise dollar value but doesn't that just highlight the opacity of the state's funding formula?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Should it take twice the money to educate kids out of Utah?
The median price of a home in Hawaii in 2023 was $832,688.
The median price of a home in Utah in 2023 was $499,759.
Should it take nearly twice as much money to build a house in Hawaii than Utah?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Most kids are stuck in their neighborhood school.
Why? What’s keeping them stuck there?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:47 pm to LSUFanHouston
Another funding is Title IX for 'disadvantaged' students. It's based on 'free lunch' kids. It's all fake. Schools know they get more money with more free lunch applicants so they don't require documentation from parents. If you make 100K a year your school would like you to get free lunch tickets so the school gets more money.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:50 pm to 4cubbies
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Should it take nearly twice as much money to build a house in Hawaii than Utah?
Should it cost 5k more to educate a kid in Lousiana than Utah?
Finland has some of the best schools in the world. Short days, and 20% less per pupil less than we pay.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Is Louisiana that much higher cost of living than Utah?
Because LA spends about 5k more per student, per year.
You missed the other half, which was... part of that difference is student needs.
Yes, I would think given the welfare state that LA has become, student needs are greater in LA than UT
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:51 pm to Wishing Well
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Um, sending your kid to public school is mandaded by law unless you pay for an alternative.
No it’s not. Homeschooling is perfectly legal.
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You are seriously comparing cumpulsory attendance to voluntarily doing business somewhere.
You jumped into this conversation comparing public and private service after it started and now you’re laughing that the conversation you inserted yourself into compared public and private services?
Ok.
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Um.............what happens if a parent doesn't send their child to public school and their child isn't enrolled in some alternative such as private or home school?
So you’re now acknowledging homeschooling exists. Parents choose what schools to send their kids to. Nothing prevents parents from moving to a different school district or finding a charter school to send their kid or homeschooling their kids.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:52 pm to Lightning
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You may not be able to calculate a precise dollar value but doesn't that just highlight the opacity of the state's funding formula?
Saying "my taxes fund public schools, since I don't use them, I should get it back" is meaningless drivel unless you can attach a dollar amount to it.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:53 pm to 4cubbies
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So you’re now acknowledging homeschooling exists.
Not for parents who both work.
More money doesnt mean a better education. The problem is parents who do not value education.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:54 pm to LSUFanHouston
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this could quickly get to $500 million per year in NEW spending.
For some of you that don't understand what NEW spending means, more money comes out of what you bring home on your paycheck.
It's a few here that do not understand.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Should it cost 5k more to educate a kid in Lousiana than Utah?
Should? I don’t operate in shoulds. It makes more sense to discuss what is.
Maybe you should shift the discussion to why it costs more to educate kids in Louisiana than Utah.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:55 pm to Zach
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If you make 100K a year your school would like you to get free lunch tickets so the school gets more money.
The school still has to feed a lunch to that kid to get that money for that kid's lunch for that day.
Also, no school in America is going to turn down federal funding.
When a school doesn't have community eligibility, they have to hire someone to process apps, review, etc.
So a district can get more money and make things easier by doing comunity eligibility, or they can get less money, spend more money on admin, and make things harder by doing the traditional eligibility?
Kinda easy to see why they do it.
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