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re: People who drive in the rain with their hazard flashers on should be flayed.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:52 am to Steadyhands
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:52 am to Steadyhands
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That's the point, you shouldn't need to tell
Correct, because your reaction to hazard lights should be the same.
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:55 am to Steadyhands
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If their hazards aren't on, then you know they are still moving forward and you're not going to just plow into them.
I know this because the light doesn’t seem to be getting closer or getting larger as I approach. Not because it’s a continuous, non-blinking light
Just because a car’s lights aren’t flashing doesn’t mean it’s not completely stopped
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:55 am to upgrade
I have always been taught that you turn hazards on if something is causing you to go under the posted speed limit until you are sure that the traffic behind you is aware by their actions....bringing attention to a hazard in otherwords heavy rain (hydroplaining), obsturction, stopped traffic or inability to safely go the posted speed limit..
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:56 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Correct, because your reaction to hazard lights should be the same.
Genuinely feel like I’m taking crazy pills reading this thread
You’ve seen how cats react when they say a pickle and they lose their shite? That’s how OTers obviously feel about a flashing light
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:57 am to LATECHgradLSUfan
9 pages. Wow.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:58 am to OysterPoBoy
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I'm not a little girl so I don't pull over. I'm also not an arrogant prick so I put my flashers on for others safety. They don't help me drive better they are for others.
You’re wrong about the law and you are making driving conditions less safe. Hazard lights are used to indicate a vehicle that is not in motion, i.e. broken down. If your vehicle is moving and has its hazard lights on, you’re being an irresponsible driver
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:58 am to GCTiger11
The issue is needing to make thay determination, potentially making the wrong initial determination, and increasing the risk of rear ending a slowing or stopping vehicle.
It's never happened to you and good for you, but I drive 50k miles a year. I was nearly flattened by a car doing exactly that in a downpour before. I had to stop due to stopped traffic, put on my flashers, car going too fast, also with flashers on, had to lock up the brakes and luckily went off the side the road instead of into my car. They assumed the flashers didn't mean anything. And that is the problem, when everybody is using them for everything they do not mean anything.
It's never happened to you and good for you, but I drive 50k miles a year. I was nearly flattened by a car doing exactly that in a downpour before. I had to stop due to stopped traffic, put on my flashers, car going too fast, also with flashers on, had to lock up the brakes and luckily went off the side the road instead of into my car. They assumed the flashers didn't mean anything. And that is the problem, when everybody is using them for everything they do not mean anything.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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You’re wrong about the law a
Page 7 is about to blow your mind
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:01 pm to Slippy
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Oh, and it's illegal.
That is all.
Not always. Several states it is legal. Here in Florida it's legal and expected during heavy rains.
I always put my flashers on during really heavy rain. It helps the person behind you to be able to see you when the wipers can't keep up.
And before someone here says it. When heavy rain hits it's not always possible to immediately pull over to a safe location.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The issue is needing to make thay determination
You have to make that determination every time you drive in a downpour regardless if a car in front it you has flashers on or not
Why do you think a car in front of you that doesn’t have their flashers on isn’t capable of being completely stopped?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:03 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Okay, the other reason would be due to slower speeds, which is also incorrect usage.
This is wrong. Some states require their use for certain speeds or vehicles.
It's not wrong. Almost no states require hazards be used based upon traffic speeds. Some states permit usage while driving period. Most states explicitly state usage is permitted if there is a road hazard, an emergency situation, etc. Not a common condition as rain.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:03 pm to Antonio Moss
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Hazard lights are used to indicate a vehicle that is not in motion, i.e. broken down.
Hazard lights are used to indicate a hazardous condition. Each state defines what that is, but most don't require the vehicle to be stopped.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:05 pm to GCTiger11
I took the time to type out the issue for you. I'm not answering every whatboutism, but I'll answer this one
They are not properly using their signaling equipment which is the entire theme of the thread. If everyone would use the shite properly we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Why do you think a car in front of you that doesn’t have their flashers on isn’t capable of being completely stopped?
They are not properly using their signaling equipment which is the entire theme of the thread. If everyone would use the shite properly we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:07 pm to Steadyhands
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It's not wrong.
It is.
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Almost no states require hazards be used based upon traffic speeds. Some states permit usage while driving period. Most states explicitly state usage is permitted if there is a road hazard, an emergency situation, etc. Not a common condition as rain.
A significant difference between traveling speed and the flow of traffic is a hazardous condition, regardless of the cause.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:07 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Alabama: The use of hazard lights is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
Alaska: The use of hazard lights is not permitted while driving.
Arizona: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in an emergency situation.
Arkansas: Hazard light usage is not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
California: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
Colorado: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except if the vehicle speed is 25 mph or less.
Connecticut: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
Delaware: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
District of Columbia: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Florida: The use of hazard lights is not permitted while driving.
Georgia: The use of hazard lights is permitted while driving.
Hawaii: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
Idaho: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except to indicate the presence of a vehicular traffic hazard requiring unusual care in approaching, overtaking or passing.
Illinois: The use of hazard lights is not permitted while driving.
Indiana: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in emergency situations.
Iowa: The use of hazard lights are not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
Kansas: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
Kentucky: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Louisiana: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
Maine: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving unless to indicate a traffic hazard.
Maryland: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in emergency situations.
Massachusetts: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
Michigan: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Minnesota: Hazard lights are not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
Mississippi: Hazard light usage is permitted while driving.
Missouri: Hazard light usage is permitted while driving.
Montana: Hazard lights are not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
Nebraska: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Nevada: Hazard light usage is not permitted while driving.
New Hampshire: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
New Jersey: The use of hazard lights is permitted while driving.
New Mexico: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
New York: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
North Carolina: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
North Dakota: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
Ohio: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except when a hazardous condition is present.
Oklahoma: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in emergency situations and to indicate a traffic hazard.
Oregon: Hazard light use is permitted while driving unless otherwise posted.
Pennsylvania: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Rhode Island: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving.
South Carolina: Hazard lights may be used while driving for the purpose of warning the operators of other vehicles of the presence of a vehicular traffic hazard requiring the exercise of unusual care in approaching, overtaking or passing.
South Dakota: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Tennessee: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except in emergency situations.
Texas: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Utah: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Vermont: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
Virginia: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except for emergency vehicles, stopped or slowed vehicles to indicate a traffic hazard, when traveling as part of a funeral procession, or traveling slower than 30 mph.
Washington: Hazard light use is not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard.
West Virginia: Hazard lights are not permitted while driving except in emergency situations.
Wisconsin: Hazard lights are not permitted while driving except to indicate a traffic hazard or when a hazardous condition is present.
Wyoming: Hazard light use is permitted while driving.
At least for Florida this is outdated information. The Florida law was changed in 2021:
Florida Law Changed in 2021
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:07 pm to GCTiger11
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Page 7 is about to blow your mind
Why, because I was right?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:09 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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That's the point, you shouldn't need to tell
Correct, because your reaction to hazard lights should be the same.
Exactly, to slow way down, possibly be prepared to stop, move over, etc. Thus, the frustration because it causes unnecessary stops/slowing of traffic (and just for you....in most states where it is not correct usage by law).
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:09 pm to OysterPoBoy
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I'm not a little girl so I don't pull over. I'm also not an arrogant prick so I put my flashers on for others safety. They don't help me drive better they are for others.
But you are breaking the law. See state trooper post above.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:11 pm to GCTiger11
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Just because a car’s lights aren’t flashing doesn’t mean it’s not completely stopped
This is true, but that would be a freak incident and if on the interstate, the driver completely stopped in the roadway without hazards would be at fault, if it even matters because everyone might be dead.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:11 pm to Steadyhands
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Thus, the frustration
Sure.
I don't like it when people drive 54 in a 55 when I'm out for a drive on the weekend. That doesn't mean they're doing anything wrong. It just means they aren't doing what I want them to do.
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