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re: Have you ever had to fire someone over their pets?

Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:25 am to
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6873 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:25 am to
Always fire cat people so they can be replaced with dog people.

dogs >> cats
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3708 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:30 am to
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There is a real dog addiction problem in this country


I know this nice young woman that’s self employed,getting a divorce and is struggling financially.
She already has 4 dogs and just bought some kinda expensive puppy.
Then she has good many tattoos and wants more.They are very well done tattoos but still.

According to her it’s all her husbands fault but I have serious doubts.
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3589 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:35 am to
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If the rule allows it, then what rule is she breaking? Sounds like their policy should have been clearer or had restrictions in it to prevent abuse.


It's called discretion and we really like having it as opposed to making more rules to go on top of the current rules. Having rules to cover every situation is a micromanager's dream and makes for a crappy workplace.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16467 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:46 am to
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PiPs are a delayed death sentence at this company. We do everything we can before putting them on a PiP and if we have to put them on one, you might as well cut the cord.

That's how they are where I am as well, which is why I hate doing them. If you're going to put them on a PiP, just pull the trigger. But it does give us time to get things in order, as well as help documentation if the employee checks any of the protected class boxes.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20253 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:05 am to
frick em. Fire her arse.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1536 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:09 am to
She’s an earth angel for fostering. I’d probably give her a raise and maybe even some leeway had her work not fallen off or had she become a problem for other employees. That said, I’d sit her down one more time if I valued her and then let her go if she’s truly causing a problem. If she were getting her job done it wouldn’t bother me.
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
5411 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:22 am to
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doing a noble thing

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dogs are non breed of peace mutts.

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12096 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:27 am to
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Idk. People like this employee are what leads to rules being so specific and covering everything, to the point of micromanaging and treating everyone like children. I’m of the opinion that for most things, it’s not a problem unless it’s a problem. Some people just tiptoe right up to the edge of the line. I’m with the people who say put her on a PIP.

I’m with you. Just playing devils advocate and if you approach her as “you’re not taking pto, etc.” then she can say “well what policy am I breaking?” if that’s what the policy allows. If it’s a state like Louisiana then none of it matters anyway and she can just he fired.

Kinda like the companies that allow unlimited vacation time or whatever it is, and they see people actually take less. I’m sure there’s some wording in there about job performance.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4658 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:33 am to
PIIHB, that will straighten her out.
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
Member since Jan 2008
4956 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:35 am to
Never mention the dogs again. They are a nonfactor.

1. Write her up for poor job performance.
2. Write out a plan for her to improve her work.
3.She either gets with the program or gets gone.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 10:37 am
Posted by WeareLATech
Member since Sep 2021
257 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:39 am to
Cut and run!
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2655 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:43 am to
Work going off a cliff, obsessing over rescue dogs, mid 40s….sounds like she’s probably gone off the reservation.
Posted by LSUScores
Member since Oct 2015
984 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:44 am to
What kind of work does she do (when she’s actually working)?
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
630 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:49 am to
The dog part is irrelevant, you basically said her job performance is terrible and she won’t improve it. Document and move on.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12096 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:58 am to
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It's called discretion and we really like having it as opposed to making more rules to go on top of the current rules. Having rules to cover every situation is a micromanager's dream and makes for a crappy workplac

At the end of the day the pto issue is irrelevant. Fire her for not performaning after already talking to her about underperforming
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12096 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:59 am to
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Having rules to cover every situation is a micromanager's dream and makes for a crappy workplace.

Also I don’t think you’d need to “cover every situation.”

Could simply have something like “don’t need to use pto if you work half a day, but limited to can’t miss X per week” or something like that.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19367 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:20 am to
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Fire her. Should have never hired her. Trashy… Did I do that right?


If you’re playing the odds, yes that was the correct move
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
1136 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:22 am to
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Typical younger generation mentality. Their personal interest always are prioritized over work.
- work from home means running errands all throughout the day, taking calls from the park or a patio, 50% engagement during work hours.
- blow off work for excuses that would’ve never been accepted 20 years ago.
- entitled to raises/promotions by simply doing their job.
- deserve student loans forgiven
- Americans should have shorter work weeks

Nothing prioritized in their minds actually helps a company.


LOL welcome to the new world old man. Screw you and the company how about that?
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6284 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:43 am to
[quote]Company policy is that if you work for more than half a day, you don't have to take PTO. She's abusing the policy IMO because she's missing 5-12 hours per week{/quote]

On the high end at 12 she works 28 a week. Half day 5 days a week is 20 hours. You just sound bitter.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1536 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:12 pm to
What do you mean? Fire her? Of course, if her job failings are disrupting. Otherwise, I’d cut her leeway for community service. I’m in the rescue world so get it. But it’s got to be balanced. We have a people problem re animals and not taking responsibility.
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