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re: Yesterday, the FBI showed up at the home of a Trump supporter in California. Video in link

Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
709 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:54 pm to
Even though you're an insufferable autist, and by no means do I think local pds and sheriff's departments should be abolished and you're a retard for insinuating such because we have empirical data showing that was a stupid idea, you're uv/dv ratio is an indication of the crippling groupthink of this forum when anyone mentions anything short of getting on their knees and suckling on the nutsack of a law enforcement officer.

It should be fundamental to any "small government conservative" that the police state, in ANY shape, form, or fashion, is no friend of the free citizenry. We see on the news everyday, hell I see it in my small town, how ineffective they are at basic policing outside of revenue generating activities.

shite rolls down hill, and the local police are not exempt from that. Their boss is the politician and bureaucrat. That's who they'll answer to. Not you, and not the constitution.

Anyone who saw what local pds did to our constitutional rights during peak covid insanity, and who still thinks they are, ultimately, on the side of a free man, and shouldn't be monitored and kept in check and recognized for their primary role, i.e., revenue generation, is no small government conservative. They're a shill and a gullible, useful idiot.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:55 pm to
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Even though you're an insufferable autist, and by no means do I think local pds and sheriff's departments should be abolished and you're a retard for insinuating such because we have empirical data showing that was a stupid idea,

Perhaps the greatest qualification intro in the history of Tigerdroppings
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72724 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:56 pm to
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conflate, confuse, and obfuscate


Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10604 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:56 pm to
Best post of the thread.
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
2690 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:57 pm to
Anyone else but me notice the non-Asian guy on the right was not an FBI agent? Looked like he had a local sheriffs badge or perhaps a US Marshal badge?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261679 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:59 pm to
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It should be fundamental to any "small government conservative" that the police state, in ANY shape, form, or fashion, is no friend of the free citizenry


Correct, but to suggest that the collective (Hint, its NOT collective) power of all other LEO trumps the FBI is low IQ emotional drivel.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56470 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:01 pm to
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The question is if they commit more crimes or not.

They do. It's not a question.
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Once we establish that
No, dude, you used local authorities as an example of a police system slanted to the right. You suggested that blacks getting convicted of crimes was politically motivated and carried out by local authorities.

I'm simply reminding you of where these crimes happen, who controls the police there, and how retarded your argument is, or would be if it was at all coherent.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101668 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:01 pm to
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DisplacedBuckeye


Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20258 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:01 pm to
Remember Reagan’s words…Hi I’m from the Government and I’m here to help!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261679 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Anyone who saw what local pds did to our constitutional rights during peak covid insanity


Easily avoidable. Leave the city limits.

Now, try to do that with the FBI on you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:04 pm to
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You suggested that blacks getting convicted of crimes was politically motivated and carried out by local authorities.

To show the absurdity of the argument.

Glad you agree.

Hope you apply it across the board like with J6ers,.Trump, etc.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Easily avoidable. Leave the city limits.


Sheriff's and state LEO exist
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101668 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:13 pm to
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quote:
You suggested that blacks getting convicted of crimes was politically motivated and carried out by local authorities.

To show the absurdity of the argument.


Is it any less a logical fallacy to say that if one identifiable group is convicted due to predisposition of that identifiable group, then it must be so in all instances for all identifiable groups?

You are not really saying that one can't somehow think there may be some inherent bias involved in once instance, unless you agree it is present in all instances, are you?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261679 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:14 pm to
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Easily avoidable. Leave the city limits.


Sheriff's and state LEO exist


Unlike the FBI, they arent a single conglomerate like you suggested earlier, and they have differing laws.

Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
709 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:15 pm to
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Correct, but to suggest that the collective (Hint, its NOT collective) power of all other LEO trumps the FBI is low IQ emotional drivel.
I suggested no such thing. You're projecting your own suggestions into what I said. It's not me who's being emotional. Projection is an emotional action.

What I said is very simple: the police state, i.e, local, state and federal police and local, state, and federal statesmen and their bureaucrats are not our friends. We are a social security number indicating our worker bee, taxbase status, circa 2024. Your government and her actors hate you, especially you, taxpaying white man, and local police will do their duty for you when the stroke of the pen at the capital tells them to.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13005 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:18 pm to
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Every level of LEO/prosecutions abuses their power. It's not just the feds


Nah, my local police and DA aren’t out trying to throw people into prison over political differences.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30572 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:19 pm to
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I think they view the fbi as politically biased.

It's not


and you wonder why everyone laughs at you here? what a take, boot licker
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101668 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:19 pm to
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What I said is very simple: the police state, i.e, local, state and federal police and local, state, and federal statesmen and their bureaucrats are not our friends. We are a social security number indicating our worker bee, taxbase status, circa 2024. Your government and her actors hate you, especially you, taxpaying white man, and local police will do their duty for you when the stroke of the pen at the capital tells them to.



Is it possible to agree with this and believe the incarcerated population is not necessarily a well correlated reflection of this point?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
423392 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Is it possible to agree with this and believe the incarcerated population is not necessarily a well correlated reflection of this point?

If we didn't have a police state, our incarcerated population would be SIGNIFICANTLY lower.

When you have too many criminal laws, and those criminal laws are too draconian on average, you're going to incarcerate a larger portion of your population.

When you permit a police state to exist, stupid laws like RICO and that NY business records law exist, and trespassing in a government building can become a serious felony with years in jail.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261679 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Correct, but to suggest that the collective (Hint, its NOT collective) power of all other LEO trumps the FBI is low IQ emotional drivel.


I suggested no such thing.


SFP did.

Talk to him.
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