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re: Grover Norquist Tweet

Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:36 pm to
It's happened multiple times in the past. The dems win every time.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124178 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:40 pm to
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The responses to this thread make it clear the Republican base is too stupid and civically illiterate for conservatism to even have a chance.
Sad truth. New speaker. Thinnest majority in history. Why hasn’t he dominated the DC agenda, fixed the deficit, ended the Ukrainian war, shutdown the border, and sent all the illegals home???
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2570 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:59 pm to
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With @SpeakerJohnson's leadership House Republicans repealed $20B from Biden’s IRS that would’ve funded ramped up audits of taxpayers & shakedowns of small businesses. With a narrow majority, the House passed a pro-growth tax package that extends key Trump tax cuts. Real wins for taxpayers.


Cool... but frick Ukraine and Israel funding and funding any foreign wars we have no business participating in, with funds we do not have. I don't know how many times this shite needs to be said before the D.C. neocons understand a large part of the conservative GOP base is tired of that shite. We're done with the Dick Cheney/Bush neocon MIC war profiteers.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2570 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:01 pm to
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The responses to this thread make it clear the Republican base is too stupid and civically illiterate for conservatism to even have a chance.


STFU nerd.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80420 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:06 pm to
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The Senate is controlled by the Democrats.


This is entirely due to Mitch McConnell and Ronna Romney. They could have supported Blake Masters in Arizona but they actually diverted funds to protect that hag Murkowski.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27722 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:11 pm to
You don't say. I'm thinking you are giving the base waaaaaay too much credit.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2109 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:26 pm to
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It always has been. Polling data consistently reflects this.


bullshite. I dont care about stupid arse polls. The people that would be against the govt shutting down are people that will always vote blue. Instead of surrendering to the Dems on every issue because of this "shut down the govt" threat, for once the GOP should nut up and actually let the people decide if they actually hate it like we're told.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124178 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:27 pm to
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STFU nerd.
Situational reality sucks. Mike Johnson is leagues better than McCarthey. Had Johnson been in place instead of Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi may never have regained the speakership. But by all means kick Johnson to the curb to get Scalise, or Jeffries, the speakership. BRILLIANT!
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80420 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:29 pm to
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Had Johnson been in place instead of Paul Ryan


He would have done the same thing. They're all on the same side and it's NOT ours.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261530 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:30 pm to
I a
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m talking about how ridiculously oblivious to reality the base is. Johnson is operating with a razor thin majority in the House,


Yep. They just want a pound of flesh though.

Funny, Trump floats the idea of "forgivable loans" and he is still hip with them.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80420 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:31 pm to
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They just want a pound of flesh though.


I want the Beltway to become a crater.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30999 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:34 pm to
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This is entirely due to Mitch McConnell and Ronna Romney. They could have supported Blake Masters in Arizona but they actually diverted funds to protect that hag Murkowski.


This is true. Don’t forget about Miss Lendsey inserting abortion.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261530 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:37 pm to
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Instead of surrendering to the Dems on every issue


When you know youre going to lose a close fight, and you can get concessions from the other guy, thats the road you take.

Y'all are not living in the reality that is US government. What yall want is impossible.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5997 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:39 pm to
Biden said "don't"

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80420 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:39 pm to
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When you know youre going to lose a close fight, and you can get concessions from the other guy, thats the road you take.


That's not what they do though.

What actually happens is that they actively seek losses so that they can say, "Well, we tried. You need to donate to and vote for us so we can get them next time."
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2109 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:43 pm to
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The responses to this thread make it clear the Republican base is too stupid and civically illiterate for conservatism to even have a chance.


What a joke. Not that I really believe you are a conservative, because you clearly are a far left groomer supporter playing the troll game...but what have "conservatives" conserved? Lost every institution, lost every social issue except for abortion...which Trump single handedly had to accomplish. We are literally implementing Modern Monetary Theory...with conservatives happily rubber stamping.

DC conservatives are losers. They will never win. If every congressional seat was filled by a GOPer they would still find a way to not revert any stupid leftist policy on the books.

There is no real "conservative vs progressive" policy debate. We are back to royalty vs peasants. The ruling class has contempt for the average person without the fancy family estate in New England. They are outnumbered but they have powerful tools like the CIA, FBI and big tech to protect themselves. They also know if they make just the right pitch to losers that are jealous of their neighbors, they will have fierce soldiers with undying loyalty, aka YOU
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26929 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 7:19 pm to
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shutting down the government is political suicide.


False.

That’s just what they tell you, because they don’t want to do their jobs.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26929 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 7:21 pm to
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Where it'll be dead on arrival in the Democratically controlled Senate,


Then wouldn’t that be the Democrats shutting down the government?

Or is that (D)ifferent?
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26929 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 7:25 pm to
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Sad truth. New speaker. Thinnest majority in history. Why hasn’t he dominated the DC agenda, fixed the deficit, ended the Ukrainian war, shutdown the border, and sent all the illegals home???


Why is he happily doing that which he said he wouldn’t? Promoting it as the correct path even.

It’s one thing to make concessions, people understand compromise, but he is selling these bills as the way forward, not a necessary evil.
Posted by NCaddoTigerfan
Member since Aug 2021
396 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:21 pm to
I would settle for passing the amendment that requires a warrant for surveillance on US citizens.
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