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People who went from nice older home to newer one
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:44 pm
Is it true that the wood and build quality these days are lacking? I saw a nice house owned by a structural engineer and the quality of the house felt solid, much more than the modern ones. The agent said the materials used now days are mostly recycled stuff for cheap and although I believe some, not sure if I believe all.
We wanted more modern cuz lead paint and we have a dog love bite the walls, but I’m being convinced otherwise
What’s the pros and cons?
We wanted more modern cuz lead paint and we have a dog love bite the walls, but I’m being convinced otherwise
What’s the pros and cons?
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:45 pm to fareplay
low cost shite materials and sky high prices and interest rates
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:46 pm to fareplay
They've been saying this for decades.
Perhaps we really are just slowly getting worse materials as the years go by.
Perhaps we really are just slowly getting worse materials as the years go by.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:49 pm to fareplay
Got to keep up with the Jones no matter the cost
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:50 pm to fareplay
I think it's more a build quality issue than a material quality issue.
Maybe the lumber is slightly lower quality than it used to be but cladding, roofing, flooring, etc are getting better.
Maybe the lumber is slightly lower quality than it used to be but cladding, roofing, flooring, etc are getting better.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:51 pm to fareplay
My house is old but renovated and they used MDF trim for everything inside including wet ateas and I fricking hate it. One day I’m gonna rip It out and replace with real wood.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:52 pm to fareplay
I had a house built in the 50’s that I sold when I built my new house 5 years ago.
Modern safety and structural requirements far outweigh the “heavier and better quality” older stuff. I’m not saying some cookie cutter mass produced homes don’t have questionable craftsmanship but let’s not pretend every old home is just build like a tank and trumps every modern home.
Modern safety and structural requirements far outweigh the “heavier and better quality” older stuff. I’m not saying some cookie cutter mass produced homes don’t have questionable craftsmanship but let’s not pretend every old home is just build like a tank and trumps every modern home.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:52 pm to fareplay
There is a very real difference on lumber quality. Build qualities were often better in older homes as well. You sacrifice the modern feel, which isn't unimportant. Ceiling heights being a big one.
1980 2x4 vs 2021 2x4. The weight difference is astounding. The modern timber is fast growth and much less dense.
1980 2x4 vs 2021 2x4. The weight difference is astounding. The modern timber is fast growth and much less dense.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:53 pm to fareplay
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Oweo alter. You got tired of not being able to start threads?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:54 pm to fareplay
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I saw a nice house owned by a structural engineer and the quality of the house felt solid,
Well yes - it is a custom home for an engineer. I would be surprised if it wasn't over-engineered from the slab to the roof deck.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:57 pm to fareplay
Most people don’t live in a house anymore for more than 4-5 years so who cares? The days of owning a home you live in for 30 years are over with.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:58 pm to fareplay
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Oct 13, 2000
Sold (MLS)
$245,000
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For sale: $1,850,000
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2,200
Sq Ft
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:58 pm to fareplay
It's not the materials. It's the attention to detail (lack thereof) that makes the difference. There are so many problems that can crop up that need to be dealt with in a typical build that simply - aren't. These problems can compound and result in a shitty house. It isn't necessarily going to "fail" an inspection, but over time it will be a headache.
You can have two different crews build the same house with the same materials and get wildly different results.
You can have two different crews build the same house with the same materials and get wildly different results.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:00 pm to fareplay
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We wanted more modern cuz lead paint and we have a dog love bite the walls
You make home buying decisions based on your idiot dog's destructive chewing?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:05 pm to fareplay
It's 1000% true. Construction material in INFINITELY cheaper made than it was 40/50/60 years ago. When I was gutting family member's houses after Katrina I was shocked how heavy the wood, sheetrock and bricks were compared to the shite they're using today.
In this pic, both are 2 x 4's of the same length. However, the one from 1918 will be much heavier due to a greater density.
In this pic, both are 2 x 4's of the same length. However, the one from 1918 will be much heavier due to a greater density.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:20 pm to fareplay
The old massive homes built 100 years ago are the best around here. Not only built better, but look far better too.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:21 pm to fareplay
Part of this is you need to define "older" house.
It used to be post-war (WWII) construction methods were considered a modern house. Now you have people calling houses built in the 70's and 80's old homes due to their age. All periods had something later frowned upon, whether knob and tube or later aluminum wiring. That said, a house built before 1940 is typically going to feature materials lasting years beyond a modern house, all things equal on maintenance.
It used to be post-war (WWII) construction methods were considered a modern house. Now you have people calling houses built in the 70's and 80's old homes due to their age. All periods had something later frowned upon, whether knob and tube or later aluminum wiring. That said, a house built before 1940 is typically going to feature materials lasting years beyond a modern house, all things equal on maintenance.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:49 pm to fareplay
It’s kind of a myth, but not completely. Plenty of houses from “back in the day” were built cheap AF also and they aren’t around anymore. The ones still around after 75 years are well built.
A lot of the reason for “cheap” stuff falling apart is leaking, water damage, etc. Plus, our houses are so air tight now that they can’t dry out anymore. Also, tear into an older house and I bet you’ll find plenty of repairs on them.
The installation on this newer stuff has to be perfect or it won’t work as well or last as long.
A lot of the reason for “cheap” stuff falling apart is leaking, water damage, etc. Plus, our houses are so air tight now that they can’t dry out anymore. Also, tear into an older house and I bet you’ll find plenty of repairs on them.
The installation on this newer stuff has to be perfect or it won’t work as well or last as long.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:54 pm to fareplay
I have lived in a home that was restored from 1924 and loved it. There are some things that are not quite like a new home. It was fun though going through the process of getting it registered by the historical society. We used things like the same 200 year old wood in it. I currently live in a 5 year old house. It is great also but you do not have the same charm as an older house.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:54 pm to fareplay
Complete bullshite on the materials. Now all of these small lot sub-divisions with 3 floor plans and quickly slapped together... that can be an issue.
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