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re: Israel committing genocide?
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:56 pm to UncleLogger
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:56 pm to UncleLogger
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14,685 children killed is gross.
No question. But the UN isn’t a terribly reliable source when it comes to Palestinians.
For example, UNRWA says there are 5,700,000 Palestinian refugees today. They arrive at that number by counting the descendants of anyone displaced from 1946-1948. Its absurd. By that definition, I’m an Austrian refugee.
My heart breaks for the Palestinians. It really does. They are trapped in cycle of victimhood by the UN and other NGOs, and are their leadership has turned them into disenfranchised human shields.
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:15 pm to Alabama Slim
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Now do women and children since october
the women who raise those children gain valor for teaching them nothing but hatred of jewry. call it what you want, but I won’t lose sleep over it
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:22 pm to UncleLogger
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So what are the real casualty figures?
We don't know. But that doesn't mean Hamas numbers are correct.
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I keep seeing the same numbers on the 4 or 5 articles I clicked
Because the only group giving estimates is Hamas.
What other group is on the ground and in position to parse out that sort of information?
If a thief claims he's only stolen 1,000 worth of goods, I don't have to know what the real amount is in order to realize it's in his best interest to downplay his numbers and therefore his numbers aren't likely accurate.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:11 am to ned nederlander
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No question. But the UN isn’t a terribly reliable source when it comes to Palestinians. For example, UNRWA says there are 5,700,000 Palestinian refugees today. They arrive at that number by counting the descendants of anyone displaced from 1946-1948. Its absurd. By that definition, I’m an Austrian refugee.
Completely understand and that’s a valid criticism. I’m no fan of the UN. Their reports I read earlier did seem biased towards the Palestinian side.. That said, I don’t believe they’re working with Hamas to inflate these casualty figures. The Times article cited two university studies that corroborate the numbers via different methods and also validated numbers they had reported in the past.
For the other people here saying the numbers are fake, with no proof backing that claim up, you guy’s can go play with yourselves or watch cartoons. Y’all know they are lying so that’s the end of discussion? Refusing to consider anything that might contradict your position is some toddler level critical thinking.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:22 am to UncleLogger
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Call it whatever you like. 14,685 children killed is gross. How does that even happen?
Where’s Dr Foo Lane Craig to tell us how slaughtering children was a good thing because it saved them from committing the sin of not accepting Jesus as their personal savior and rewarded them with a life in heaven? Like what Moses did to the Midianite babies and virgin girls and what Joshua did to Jericho.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 1:08 am to ruffleforeskin
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 2:19 am to Azkiger
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In other words, Hamas, the group that kills and rapes women and children, are claiming that's the number.
How you're retarded enough to believe that number is the real question.
Edit: Of course the UN is going to frame Hamas as "the authorities in Gaza". Doesn't sound as good when you just say Hamas...
Ok, so the other choice is to believe Israel self reporting on killing children?! That sounds even more retarded than believing the victims!
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:28 am to Boodis Man
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Why are we forking over billions to a country that doesn’t need cash.
Since 1948 the welfare money the US has provided Israel is off the charts. There’s absolutely no reason we should be giving them anything at all in 2024.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:14 am to UncleLogger
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Call it whatever you like. 14,685 children killed is gross. How does that even happen?
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As of 22 April, according to the authorities in Gaza, of the 34,151 Palestinians killed in Gaza, 14,685 have been children and 9,670 women.
quote:Wow! Brilliant.
For the other people here saying the numbers are fake, with no proof backing that claim up, you guy’s can go play with yourselves or watch cartoons.
Play with this cartoon.
Hamas hides in and under schools, mosques, and hospitals. Israel is targeting Hamas militants. So ...
Assuming your 14,685 number is legitimate (which you naively do), and assuming Israel is targeting adult male Hamas terrorist scum, how do you suppose 42% of resultant deaths are children?
Assuming Israel is targeting adult male Hamas terrorist scum, how do you suppose 71% of the deaths would be women and children?
A bright person, a thinker, an intellectually rational person, would see the Hamas fatality claims and immediately ask those questions. But you don't ask. Instead, you see the claim, accept it at face value, and form an emotional conclusion. The thing speaks for itself.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:51 am to NC_Tigah
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Hamas hides in and under schools, mosques, and hospitals. Israel is targeting Hamas militants. So ...
So the only viable solution is to kill them all, right?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:03 am to 10thyrsr
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Ok, so the other choice is to believe Israel self reporting on killing children?! That sounds even more retarded than believing the victims!
The other and best choice is to simply not give a flying frick.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:06 am to Steadyhands
People in the US have the moral culpability to care given that American tax dollars are actively funding Israel’s activities.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 6:11 am to Damone
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re actively funding Israel’s activities.
By activities do you mean defending themselves against a violent religious terror organization that raped women, beheaded babies, and took senior citizens hostage?
The same terror organization that has held US hostages for 6 months?
Say, “RELEASE THE HOSTAGES!”
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:36 am to Rebel
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that raped women, beheaded babies
There was no mass rape, and there were no beheaded babies.
A settler group lied about it.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:38 am to UncleLogger
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Call it whatever you like. 14,685 children killed is gross. How does that even happen?
When the enemy hides behind these children like the cowards that they are
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:55 am to Damone
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People in the US have the moral culpability to care given that American tax dollars are actively funding Israel’s activities.
People in the US don't get to choose where tax dollars are spent. Take your bs elsewhere.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:19 am to UncleLogger
One of the literal implications of being the chosen people, is that you end up being extremely ethnocentric. Other peoples lives don’t matter.
Edit- Judaism has its own version of Taqiyya as well, if that gives you a sense of how the group identity works.
Edit- Judaism has its own version of Taqiyya as well, if that gives you a sense of how the group identity works.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:12 am to ruffleforeskin
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 9:14 am
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:24 am to Rebel
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By activities do you mean defending themselves against a violent religious terror organization that raped women, beheaded babies, and took senior citizens hostage?
The same terror organization that has held US hostages for 6 months?
Say, “RELEASE THE HOSTAGES!”
look at this schmuck regurgitating the fake IDF narrative.
even if all of that is true (is isn't), we shouldn't be funding their defense. f** all the way off with that. they already have more than enough money and a vastly superior military with F16s, missiles, tanks etc. vs a rag tag militant group making projectiles from water pipes
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:57 am to UncleLogger
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I’m no fan of the UN. Their reports I read earlier did seem biased towards the Palestinian side.
Yea. An organization with 57 majority Muslim members is biased on this issue. For example, the United Nations Human Rights Council was created in 2006. Israel has been the target of 46% of all UNHRC resolutions condemning a nation state. Israel, a democracy with universal suffrage and religious/gender equality has been condemned more than North Korea, Sudan, Iran, China, Russia, Saudi, Myanmar, etc. combined.
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For the other people here saying the numbers are fake, with no proof backing that claim up, you guy’s can go play with yourselves or watch cartoons. Y’all know they are lying so that’s the end of discussion? Refusing to consider anything that might contradict your position is some toddler level critical thinking.
I think the number of Gazan casualties are probably accurate. Or accurate enough. And for the record I strongly disagree with what Israel has done in response to October 7. But calling this a Palestinian genocide is an idea that is rightly left expressed by college nitwits. This is a war between a nation state and a quasi nation state taking place across an urban battle field. One side has far more capacity and takes some care to reduce civilian casualties. The other side has no real capacity and takes no care to reduce civilian casualties.
Hopefully it ends soon.
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