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Trump’s lawyers enter crimes committed by other presidents that were not charged

Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:15 am
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:15 am
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Trump lawyer argues for presidential immunity.

He brings up these three examples.

1. Bush lied to congress to induce war with Iraq.

2. Obama ordered drone strikes to kill U.S. citizens abroad.

3. Biden induced foreigners to enter the U.S. illegally.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 8:17 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:19 am to
The case really boils down to official acts vs private acts.
Posted by kantwait
Gulf coast
Member since Aug 2023
22 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:25 am to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21938 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:34 am to
Even Trump's attorney admitted there was no immunity for private acts, and the acts described in the indictment were private acts.

He'll still get his delay because SCOTUS is corrupt, but he didn't have any logic in his arguments.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9247 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:41 am to
This:


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The Supreme Court is not going to get into the debate of what action is “immune” vs what action is “not immune,” the court simply hates that stuff.

This unwillingness to get into the granular debate of statutory interpretation is the same reason why the court will not look at what the executive branch defines as “classified documents” vs “non-classified” documents. Once they open that pandoras’ box there would be a bazillion appeals for SCOTUS writ on the baseline of illegitimately denied FOIA requests. They ain’t going to touch it. Same applies here.

The Supreme Court is going to send this back to the lower DC court and tell them to hash out the issue of “private interest” acts, vs “official” acts. This is the core of the originating issue.

Was President Trump ensuring the integrity of an election outcome he considered sketchy (official act), or was President Trump trying to overturn the election by ensuring election integrity (private interest act).

That’s the question that SCOTUS is going to tell the lower court to battle out, and then the SCOTUS will weigh in if needed. The Supreme Court is going to send this case back down to the lower court for definitions of “official act” -vs- “private interest act” before they will touch the immunity issue.


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Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5909 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:47 am to
Clinton obstruction of justice and perjury.

Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
935 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:22 am to
Clinton lied under oath
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27682 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:02 pm to
Kind of a separate thread, but

quote:

Bush lied to congress to induce war with Iraq.


Really isn't fair to Bush, despite all his faults. He was lied to and manipulated by our intelligence agencies to believe what he told Congress was true. There's plenty to shite on him over, but this one ain't it.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63651 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:21 pm to
This court doesn’t care about oral argument in this case. They’re going to punt…
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10984 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:07 am to
His lawyer is arguing that everything is ok if it’s “an official act.”

So Biden can do whatever he wants if trump wins this case.

It’s a dangerous strategy, no?
Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
1348 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:41 am to
Of all the cases against trump the immunity argument is his weakest one.

Trump was using his office for private gain, to remain in power. He peddled conspiracy theories that vote tallies were incorrect and wanted Mike Pence to refuse to certify the vote based on that assertion.

He either really believes that, or surrounded himself with complete unpatriotic morons who screwed him over.

Either way, that was not an official act on behalf of the country.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13518 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:57 am to
Imagine living in a country where the govt, illegally put in place, can then use all their powers to prosecute their opponent at federal, state, local levels simultaneously, during an election to bleed him of finances, and prevent him from campaigning.

It worked for them in Pakistan, Brazil, and numerous other countries, why not at home?

Not only are they fabricated, in some cases they actually changed/enacted policies and laws to retroactively then make it illegal. The sexual charge in New York, the classified documents, where the DOD supersedes the presidential powers.

It really saddens me that we have skipped right past the basic rights of any American and instead are caught up in nebulous innuendo about court maneuvering and legal nonsense ad nauseum.

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