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re: Remember When We Were Told Abrams Battle Tanks Would Change The Trajectory Of The War?

Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:02 am to
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:02 am to
Agree. The tank crews make the Abrams effective. Also when we operate the Abrams we have air superiority. You need good crews and air support. Our fighters clear the skies, the Warthogs knock the enemy force down, the Apaches chip away some more and the Abrams finish them off. We don’t want to fight fair.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:05 am to
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The tank crews make the Abrams effective.



I think it was Stormin' Norman, from Gulf War 1, who said he'd have won if our military and the Iraqis had swapped hardware. He was more confident in his men and training than the weapons they fought with...


I wonder if our military leaders would confidently say the same today.

Posted by Captain Poopie Pants
Pag Island
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:16 am to
Well said. Common sense.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19683 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:37 am to
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Agree. The tank crews make the Abrams effective. Also when we operate the Abrams we have air superiority. You need good crews and air support. Our fighters clear the skies, the Warthogs knock the enemy force down, the Apaches chip away some more and the Abrams finish them off. We don’t want to fight fair.


Tanks are now easy targets for drones and drones doing spotting for artillery.

Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8394 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:46 am to
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Our fighters clear the skies, the Warthogs knock the enemy force down, the Apaches chip away some more and the Abrams finish them off. We don’t want to fight fair.


This is a 40-year-old mission set. New tech (drones) has slightly changed the battlefield. Do we really need fighters to provide air superiority when all I need are sub-$10k drones to provide the same role as an A-10 could do? Plus all the support an A-10 needs to remain in the air?

We have seen older Bradelys taking out older Russian tanks. Maybe if we go against a major power we'll need Abrams. The world is changing.
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