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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:07 pm to Vacherie Saint
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The goal posts have been moved.
Back.
The goalposts have been moved back.
Keep whining about people spending time here arguing...while you fricking spend time here arguing.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:10 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Don't get pissed at me because you're asking a stupid question
I'm hardly pissed. I'm curious.
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She shot the dog because of her own inexperience, ignorance, and uncontrolled emotions.
That's your view. I get it. I don't know enough about what happened to render an opinion. I'm hardly a Noem fan and won't bother reading the book.
I was responding to posters arguing that it's not commonplace on farms/ranches to put animals down that have become unproductive or problematic. I can't tell if you're in that group or not because you dance around that question. Which is fine.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:11 pm to David_DJS
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That's your view.
That's supposedly in her book...
Maybe she's full of shite, but that wouldn't really make it better for her.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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That's supposedly in her book...
Maybe she's full of shite, but that wouldn't really make it better for her.
Noem has a good story (talking about her upbringing) and is good on most issues, but she's not the brightest. If she wasn't attractive (before all the work on her face), nobody would know who she is.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:21 pm to WPBTiger
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:21 pm to David_DJS
It’s interesting to see who gets most defensive when someone brings up shooting useless creatures. Lol.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:23 pm to David_DJS
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Simple question. Do you think it's common on farms/ranches for unproductive/problematic animals to be put down?
maybe farmers/ranchers should get livestock guardian dogs, shepherd dogs or general working dogs. not hunting/retriever type dogs that have high prey drive.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:35 pm to David_DJS
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Noem has a good story (talking about her upbringing) and is good on most issues, but she's not the brightest. If she wasn't attractive (before all the work on her face), nobody would know who she is.
She might, but she lost the whole "that's how farm life goes" argument when she said she hated the dog. She says she wanted to show that she could make tough decisions. All she did was double down on a stupid decision from 20 years ago.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:45 pm to David_DJS
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I was responding to posters arguing that it's not commonplace on farms/ranches to put animals down that have become unproductive or problematic.
Why do you keep saying "animals" instead of "dogs"? Is it because you know that "unproductictive" dogs don't just get shot? Even though it was a good house pet, should it have been a natural at bird hunting without training?
And what about the goat? Is a goat being smelly and knocking her kids down a problem animal?
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:00 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:The ancient statute which was never enforced and updated 10 years ago to say that if the dog was only killing poultry you can just give it to a different owner or build an enclosure so the dog couldn't escape. Weird how you hard core ranchers left that out of the quote.
Someone literally posted a statute showing this is common.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:05 pm to mmcgrath
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Why do you keep saying "animals" instead of "dogs"?
Because on a farm/ranch they are animals.
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Is it because you know that "unproductictive" dogs don't just get shot?
I know they do. You know nothing.
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Even though it was a good house pet
Got a link or are you just saying this to help your position?
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should it have been a natural at bird hunting without training?
It was trained by the breeder she bought it from according to reports I have seen.
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Is a goat being smelly and knocking her kids down a problem animal?
yes
Keep coming back mcgrath. Your idiocy really adds to the thread.
eta-Feel free to link this statute you claim was modified recently.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:27 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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They posted a statute
A statute that bolsters the defense that out of control dogs on farms can and shall be put down, dumbass
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:33 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Just last week a guy I work with shot his two German shepherds for mauling his horse’s legs.
That's a hell of a lot different from someone shooting their own bird dog because they couldn't control it and it killed some chickens.
How is it different?
The guy couldn't control his own dogs...
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:36 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Are you under the imperssion that a dog is a plant?
Why do you keep saying "animals" instead of "dogs"?
quote:Good farm dogs (and definately good house pets) don't kill the other animals. Killing other animals on a farm is... well, the very definition of unproductive.
Even though it was a good house pet
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:40 pm to Taxing Authority
Good farm dogs will protect the other animals on the farm.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:40 pm to geauxbrown
In my lifetime I've had to put down 3 dogs because they went after the livestock. Two I had from pups. I cried as I did it but it had to be done.
I thought being a bitch was un-American but I guess I was wrong.
I thought being a bitch was un-American but I guess I was wrong.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:41 pm to BuckyCheese
Putting down animals is common practice on farms and ranches. I've got stories from my grandma of drowning nests of baby rabbits in a bucket, killing cats that are getting too numerous, putting down dogs that had a bad temperament, putting down lame horses, cattle, etc. In farm life this story is no big deal.
Hell, last year I found a nest of rabbits in the flower garden and was getting the bucket of water to dispose of them. Neighbor lady walks over and says don't do that, she'll take care of them. She snapped their necks and tossed them in the trash that was being picked up the next morning. She was raised on a farm in Nebraska.
I can see how in today's urban society where pets are considered part of the family this is shocking to people, but for farmers and ranchers this is part of the life.
This is really a nothing story.
Hell, last year I found a nest of rabbits in the flower garden and was getting the bucket of water to dispose of them. Neighbor lady walks over and says don't do that, she'll take care of them. She snapped their necks and tossed them in the trash that was being picked up the next morning. She was raised on a farm in Nebraska.
I can see how in today's urban society where pets are considered part of the family this is shocking to people, but for farmers and ranchers this is part of the life.
This is really a nothing story.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:42 pm to CR4090
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I thought being a bitch was un-American but I guess I was wrong.
Bunch of faux outrage leftists. They sucked beagle killer Fauci’s dick raw.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:46 pm to BuckyCheese
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Good farm dogs will protect the other animals on the farm.
Because that's what they were trained to do and what they are there to do.
Her dog, however wasn't a "farm dog" and wasn't trained to protect other animals. It was a pet that she was attempting to train to be a bird dog... and bird dogs... well... flush birds, retrieve birds etc. What would you think a very poorly trained "bird dog" would do when it say... birds. This was entirely Kristi Noem's fault... poorly trained... and... at least where I'm from... you don't take a poorly trained dog out unleashed. And when you say stop... the dog stops. She simply didn't have a trained dog. And as a result of her not training the dog... she killed it. That's what happened here. Not your made up situation of a farm dog that should have been protecting chickens instead chasing and killing the chickens.
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