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re: Israelis release video about Oct 7: Screams Before Silence

Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8795 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:03 pm to
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They are sticking up for Palestinian citizens who are caught in the middle of this war. Everyday people like me and you


Out of curiosity, who voted Hamas into power? Who supports Hamas as the governing body of Gaza?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11193 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:04 pm to
Every single citation I’ve seen from the NYT to the UN is using the numbers provided by the Gaza Health Ministry. The 30k number. It’s a number that is over 60% derived from media coverage. I’m not saying no civilians have died. I’m just saying it’s not a real number. Nobody knows what the real count is.

Hamas is free to surrender themselves at any time.
Posted by Sevensblue
Las Vegas
Member since Apr 2022
1002 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:09 pm to
You know voting in those kinds of middle eastern countries is a complete sham. 95% of those civilians just want to work and support their families. Get real man
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38954 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:20 pm to
I'm watching this now. Gut wrenching.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33691 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:23 pm to
Halfway through. Makes me beside myself anyone could ever support these sick pigs. Israel could drops nukes on every inch of Palestine tomorrow, fallout style, and it wouldn’t be enough.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64135 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:26 pm to
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The fact that MSM refuses to acknowledge the civilian suffering on both sides should be a huge red flag to reasonable people.

Over 3 million German civilians died in WWII. Should they have been allowed to continue mass genocide because innocents would end up dying? At some point, the country who is committing the atrocities is responsible for their own civilian deaths. If they don’t want their civilians caught in the crossfire, stop being fricking terrorists.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33204 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:27 pm to
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95% of those civilians just want to work and support their families.


How do you know this?

It’s not like the US; it’s a more tribal society. Listen to The Green Prince for info directly from someone who grew up there.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53010 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:40 pm to
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 95% of those civilians just want to work and support their families. Get real man


Doubtful.

You're trying to look at these people (Middle Easterners) as reasonable and most aren't.

It's the same reason the average person doesn't understand how someone can kill another over being "disrespected."
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38954 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:42 pm to
Man, Hamas REALLY hates non-Muslim women. Just terrible what they did to them.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54778 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:05 pm to
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I can understand what they want to do. But they have already destroyed most of Gaza to where I doubt it can be rebuilt to amount to anything. The innocent people that have died is tragic. But war is hell….

Keep in mind, Peej, that Hamas (the lawful government of the Palestinian people) could have ended this when the first bomb was dropped on the Gaza Strip. They have repeatedly chosen not to end it. They don't give a damn about the people they are supposed to serve and protect.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54778 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:08 pm to
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Hold up. I don’t think these college students are sticking up for hamas. They are sticking up for Palestinian citizens who are caught in the middle of this war. Everyday people like me and you

"From the river to the sea."

What do you think that means? They all chant it. They've been chanting it since the news broke on October 7th.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 10:09 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203363 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:11 pm to
I agree… but do these protesters really think anyone in the Middle East gives a rats arse about them???
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
539 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:19 pm to
I just watched it, horrific stuff.

I just can't get over the response by the IDF. A police officer sees it on the news and drives all the way across the country to the concert and is there all by himself...Where the frick is the military? Where are the police?

It doesn't smell right, in no way I am saying Israel was complicit in this, but the response time is absolutely insane to me. One of the most secure borders on the planet and they just waltz on in, unimpeded. I watched a former IDF helicopter pilot talking about whenever there was a border breach they would have Apache's scrambled and at the border within minutes.

I know I will get dragged for this but I fully believe Netanyahu knew there was going to be a terrorist attack and he let it play out for a while to advance his agenda. In no way does this mean I sympathize with these pieces of shite, they all need to die painful deaths, they're the absolute scum of the earth.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
5975 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:29 pm to
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I’ll let people just report how bad it is - I don’t need to watch videos to confirm it. That stuff gets burned into your memory.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66472 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:01 pm to
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in no way I am saying Israel was complicit in this


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I fully believe Netanyahu knew there was going to be a terrorist attack and he let it play out for a while


Well alright.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29005 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:13 pm to
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It blows my mind, both sides have a ton of guilt/blame/you name it, on them… but one side always seems to have the bully pulpit in America. The other does not


Elon tweeted recently that we’ve moved to the point where “Weak/oppressed = right.” It’s hard to disagree. I don’t buy the Ben Shapiro “Israel gave Palestine what they wanted. This is all their fault.”

But much like Ukraine, eventually you need to realize we’re just killing our own people by not coming to grips that we’re at war with a much stronger force.

Israel can kick rocks for the most part and has done terrible things but Palestine is a pathetic excuse for a “country” governed by monsters, kept in power by idiots.

In the last 100 years we had genocides that weren’t even wartime (Mao, Stalin Rwanda, Bosnia) that were way worse and less provoked. Yemen, Myanmar, and Darfur are in the middle of genocides right now, they just don’t know how to market as well as Palestine.


They are people made in God’s own image and I want better for them but they’re simply incapable of anything but being a thorn. I pray for a resolution and healing but I just don’t see it as long as Hamas survives. May the Lord surprise me with his mercies.
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
781 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:14 pm to
Was he still alive? Aloha Snackbar was yelling so much I couldn’t tell. Insanity
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27479 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:28 pm to
....how hard would it be to turn fentanyl into an aerosol....

Asking for heimish
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51476 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 6:43 am to
Watched it last night. Damn. Just damn. Don't know how Sandberg kept it together at times. Probably didn't Thank goodness for editing probably.

The interviews with the victims. No words can describe it.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18465 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 7:17 am to
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I'm watching this now. Gut wrenching.


I watched all of it last night.

Look, I don’t know who really started anything or what really goes on over there outside of what’s been represented to me online and in the media.

But I will say that if MY daughter and the girls of my community were infiltrated, kidnapped, raped, and murdered by a group of people who have a religious imperative to eliminate my family and friends from the earth, I’m killing every single one of them. I would have zero qualms about a genocide of their entire people.

I’m not sure how anyone can watch that video and not understand why the Israeli government finally had enough.
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