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re: Is Vitello a better recruiter and offensive coach than Jay

Posted on 5/2/24 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by Regit424
Member since Jan 2021
529 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 10:45 pm to
Maybe but JJ is better at winning national titles. Which do you prefer?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
8024 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:10 pm to
Saying which coach is “better” among elite coaches is getting so old. Jay has done much more in his career than Vitello. With that being said, Vitello is still an elite coach and anyone who says otherwise is just fooling themselves.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278676 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

Vitello is absolutely elite.


I like him & wont throw shade like most of LSU’s fan base

But 4 different SEC teams have won the CWS over the last 5 years and none of them have been Tennessee

Win a chip & I’ll call him elite
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32482 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:37 pm to
And how many titles they have dipshit?
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32482 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:40 pm to
Just stfu clown.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13134 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:01 am to
Vitello took over a moribund baseball program and has turned them into an SEC contender. He also has built a fanbase from not much and baseball at UT is "on the map."

Jay Johnson has done more than Vitello as he has taken two different programs to the CWS champ series and won one NC.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66198 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:52 am to
helps to play in a tiny park, no?

quote:

Yes CJJ assembled a great team last year, but 2 of his 3 years at LSU offensive has been lacking.


i love how people just want to completely dismiss 1 of his 2 years.

what was wrong with the offense his first year? offenses weren't exactly lighting it up during cpm later years were they?

quote:

While at Arizona his offenses weren’t exactly nationally recognized.


kind of impressive they won so much then. btw i believe both times he advanced to the cws he had to go through sec teams.

again if you play at a park like tenn's you probably will lead in offensive stats. how has any of that worked out for vitello in omaha?
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66198 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:57 am to
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Jay Johnson has done more than Vitello as he has taken two different programs to the CWS champ series and won one NC.


I am convinced some LSU fans would rather be Arkansas or Tennessee. Lets completely dismiss the championship against the toughest route possible. Why can't we be Arkansas or Tenn!

It's sad some of these LSU fans can't handle a down season. This same thread has already been done about Arkansas' coach who BTW finished in last place in the SEC West within the past decade. In 2016, Van Horn finished 26–29 overall (losing record) and 7–23 in SEC.

I actually like Vitello as a coach, but LSU has a coach who beat him in Omaha.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59303 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:04 am to
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Jack Daniel


Kill yourself
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3668 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:49 am to
Tennessee won 3 straight SEC tournaments and 2 consecutive conference champs with delmonico. he had a 3rd and 4th place finish in Omaha. I don’t think you’ll find anyone saying that vitello isn’t a great coach, but pretending they haven’t had a successful coach before is dishonest.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1512 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:24 am to
quote:

Jay has done much more in his career than Vitello



Because he's coached double the amount of games.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7283 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:28 am to
quote:

It's sad some of these LSU fans can't handle a down season.

This cannot be emphasized enough, It doesn’t matter which sport or which coach, it always happens.
Posted by Barrylsu
Mandeville LA
Member since May 2009
249 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:05 am to
Regardless, there is no excuse for CJJ to not even make the SEC tournament lead along the NCAA tournament
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Jay Johnson has done more than Vitello as he has taken two different programs to the CWS champ series and won one NC.
Arizona was 4 years removed from the national title when jay took over

LSU was 12 years removed from a national title and 4 years removed from a runner up when Johnson took over

When Vitello took over Tennessee they hadn’t made the 64 team field in 13 years

I think context for everything is important
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:09 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:10 am to
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But 4 different SEC teams have won the CWS over the last 5 years and none of them have been Tennessee

4 sec football teams won titles in a 6 year stretch. Do you judge Kentucky football coaches by winning a title or not?
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:11 am
Posted by saltytiger2
Pride, LA
Member since Sep 2015
673 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:23 am to
This a worn out argument. Just stop.

Has Vitello won a NC? Come even close in Omaha?
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25552 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:33 am to
Why?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Has Vitello won a NC? Come even close in Omaha?


Arizona pre Johnson-4 national titles and 16 Omaha appearances

LSU pre Johnson-6 national titles and 19 Omaha appearances

Tennessee pre Vitello- 0 national titles and 3 Omaha appearances

Do you think it’s logical to judge the two coaches by hardware?
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:39 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70537 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:44 am to
People here will refuse to give Vitello credit for anything.

Prior to Tennessee he was at two schools with coaches that don't recruit off campus and built Omaha rosters, including the one that Arkansas made the finals with.

The bottom line is that LSU and Tennessee have a couple relatively young coaches that know what they're doing and will have both programs in Omaha competing for titles regularly.

One National Championship coach is about to be pushed out of his job. Another will probably retire in the next few years since he doesn't have the artificial advantages he once enjoyed and is finding out an even playing field is hard.

The league will never be easy. Hell the worst team in the league this year has been to Omaha 3 times under their coach.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
6490 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:48 am to
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lsupride87


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