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You Are What The Market Says You Are Worth

Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:16 am
Posted by KyrieElaison
Tennessee
Member since Oct 2014
2405 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:16 am
Period. Not what a coach or fan base thinks you are worth. Why is a small apartment in NYC so expensive and that same place in BR cheap? Market. Until we are willing to come to grips with that and pay what the market dictates we will not get players
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30559 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:19 am to
Curious what Overton and Nolan got from their respective schools in the first window.

That would be interesting.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5757 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:21 am to
Thanks for the Econ 101 lesson, Professor. Except ~20 college football teams bidding on football players isn’t the “open market” and there’s strategy and other recruiting classes involved. This is auction pricing buddy, terrible analogy
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4292 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:31 am to
Some fans can’t see the forest for the trees. Too lost in the weeds to make rational decisions
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279225 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:59 am to
quote:

we will not get players


You don’t follow recruiting huh
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6585 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:02 am to
I can’t help but laugh at the ill informed idiots that wanted to bring in a guy to be the highest paid player on the team that completely sucked when he played tough competition. That would have played well in the locker room for sure. You idiots can’t even keep the ice cream machine at MaDonalds up and running.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70813 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:39 am to
This isn’t an open market
Posted by southendzoneresident
Member since Jun 2013
1127 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:51 am to
Except say you bring in this player for a hypothetical 2 mil and let's just say hypothetically Perkins makes 750,000. What happens when a player like Perkins refuses to play until he is paid his new market worth. Which if you are going to pay a 3 star dt 2 million. What would you pay Harold Perkins? Also before you say not playing hurts his draft stock, Perkins wouldn't have to play this year and still would be a high pick. OK so then you pay Perkins and whoever else makes a fuss, now you have less money to pay the next recruiting class which if you have been paying attention has the potential to be the best ever. It's stupid but this is the NIL era and rules need to be put in place ASAP. There is a reason TX and LSU are out because they are not desperate and building for continued success and future runs. Ou Miama etc are trying to make splashes to stay relevant. Way more to it than just market value.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10442 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 9:18 am to
What don't you understand about the situation? If they pay a scrub $1m, 84 other people will enter the portal in 8 months all requesting the same payout.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
7043 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:14 am to
The market always dictates. When I'm selling a stock, someone is buying it, and we both feel good about our deals...
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31815 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:45 am to
Williams was asking for an amount that exceeded what most of our coaching staff makes in a year. He already had a very generous offer and tried to get even more. Not worth it. Build via hs players
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28649 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:49 am to
Markets fluctuate with variables. Supply and demand. 4 months ago the supply of players was higher. Now it’s not and demand is higher. But that doesn’t mean OVERPAYING because of limited supply is a good investment. When you start overpaying for average players you run the risk of significantly raising the market value of real dudes. The dudes who are the difference makers. You also raise the market for your other average players.

If you want to argue LSU should have taken steps to avoid putting themselves in an adverse situation, I’m with you. But throwing good money after bad isn’t the way to fix it.
Posted by GeauxVU
Member since Jan 2022
1102 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 11:42 am to
I f**king love when this board comes together to call out the stupid s**t some people say, like OP’s mouth breathing nonsense. Y’all the real ones.
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
4494 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 2:46 pm to
Period. Not what a coach or fan base thinks you are worth. Why is a small apartment in NYC so expensive and that same place in BR cheap? Market. Until we are willing to come to grips with that and pay what the market dictates we will not get players

Only on the front side. Once the games start you learn whether or not the market value at the time equaled the product on the field as well as the impact on the remainder of the roster.
Posted by lsutiger2011
Georgia
Member since Jan 2009
1294 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 3:01 pm to
Supply and demand…
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
2038 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 3:09 pm to
A glass of water is worth a lot more to someone dying of thirst than someone who has their own well.

Circumstances greatly define what something is worth to individuals… or in this case schools.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4684 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

and pay what the market dictates
Wrong. Markets are wrong all the time regarding coaches and players. Was Jimbo worth the eleventy billion aggy has to pay him ? Is Russell Wilson worth his contract ?
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9125 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 4:32 pm to
This isn’t how it works anyway. Some teams are just worth more to play for so you should take less. Not everyone is equal when it comes to developing NFL players. Not everyone is equal when it comes to playing for championships. Not everyone is equal when it comes to coaching. Maybe LSU needs to get better at communicating that message if anything.

If these kids can’t take that into account then that just shows me they know they have no future and want all the money they can get now. We don’t want those players on this team. We want real NFL players. We might have to start paying more but at least pay the right player that type of money.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27054 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 5:00 pm to
In many situations, yes. But in a situation where you then have to perform to a certain level, no.

In your real estate analogy, it’s a place where you live. That’s it.

In a football player, there will be a measurable result that proves where you were on a productivity level.

Completely different situations and a very poor comparison.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42180 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Period. Not what a coach or fan base thinks you are worth. Why is a small apartment in NYC so expensive and that same place in BR cheap? Market. Until we are willing to come to grips with that and pay what the market dictates we will not get players


Ok, money bags
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