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Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:42 am to THog
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Sumerians believed rebellious angels (anunnaki) created man. Very similar to the sons of god in Genesis 6. Is why i recommend Enoch 1.
I hear ya.
I'm trying to understand the resident Pagan to weigh in on their Religious Beliefs and its account of Creation.
(will they?)
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:42 am to Liberator
I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages.
Your question just made me think of that scene and chuckle.
Your question just made me think of that scene and chuckle.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:43 am to RB10
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Either way, I don’t have any interest in engaging with you any further.
That was quick.
Nothing in the tank at all to share?
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:43 am to GRTiger
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:51 am to GRIZZ
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We see megalodon teeth wash up on shores all around the world.
Wait... Megalodon -- Isn't this creature just a theory?
Can't these teeth be Sharks teeth?
Why do Paleontologists and Archaeologists always insist that Shark's teef MUST be ancient "Dinosaur" teeth?
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:52 am to RB10
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Gilgamesh being one of the main ones.
Just pointing out rebellious angel human hybrids attempting to rule over and replace adams descendants. Gilgamesh was 2/3 god and 1/3 man.
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/5/24 at 12:22 pm to Liberator
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Wait... Megalodon -- Isn't this creature just a theory?
Can't these teeth be Sharks teeth?
Why do Paleontologists and Archaeologists always insist that Shark's teef MUST be ancient "Dinosaur" teeth?
My God, you’re dumb.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:31 pm to Liberator
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Wait... Megalodon -- Isn't this creature just a theory? Can't these teeth be Sharks teeth?
My man. A megalodon IS a shark.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 2:26 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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So you think a 'grifter' is one who objectively looks at the evidence and has a differing opinion than the established "™" version?
No, a grifter in this case (Sitchin) is someone who trumpets discredited claims so he can sell his books to stupid people. quote:Ignorant bullshite statement. There is no 'establishment' propaganda. Archeologists aren't rooting for an outcome. More importantly, your people offer ZERO scientific evidence to backup their claims. It's just a lot of playing around in the grey areas and a whole lot of relying on people's lack of knowledge. All you need in most cases is a cursory investigation of the facts and your alt history beliefs melt away considerably.
the established "™" version?
The other poster was right. Your boy Hancock got his arse handed to him on Rogan. shite, even Chariots of the Gods was basically plagiarized from an earlier French book. I know your boy Gary does a weekly alt history/aliens stream, but he should stick to the alien angle. At least that can't be immediately debunked in many cases.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 3:44 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Hancock has said about the flood and rising sea levels is worth considering as well, 80% of humans live close to the ocean. If something existed, it would be ocean floor now.
Listen to that Rogan program, there has been extensive underwater exploration and all evidence discovered points to hunter gatherer settlements and nothing ‘advanced’
Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:32 pm to blueboy
I've not seen the recent 'debate' of which you speak, but I've heard Graham obliterated the other guy. No idea who he is, don't care.
Sichin? Again, no idea. Never heard of / don't follow him. All I know is there are a bunch of free thinkers who ask very basic and relevant questions regarding all sorts of ancient monuments that "™" doesn't address. It's just "a bunch of slaves and some sort of super strong magical rope" that no one can replicate and oh yeah, also an array of tools that we can't find ANY evidence of existing. And the rock pounding and copper tools don't cut granite with anywhere near the precision needed on a large-scale project.
Sichin? Again, no idea. Never heard of / don't follow him. All I know is there are a bunch of free thinkers who ask very basic and relevant questions regarding all sorts of ancient monuments that "™" doesn't address. It's just "a bunch of slaves and some sort of super strong magical rope" that no one can replicate and oh yeah, also an array of tools that we can't find ANY evidence of existing. And the rock pounding and copper tools don't cut granite with anywhere near the precision needed on a large-scale project.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:34 pm to Liberator
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Can't these teeth be Sharks teeth?
Yes, just from a really big shark, like a Mega shark.
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Why do Paleontologists and Archaeologists always insist that Shark's teef MUST be ancient "Dinosaur" teeth?
frick’s sake, you think the magalodon was a dinosaur, don’t you.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
If you don’t believe in God it is impossible. If you believe in a God that could speak the world into existence it is really not difficult.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 4:40 pm to MikeD
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Listen to that Rogan program, there has been extensive underwater exploration and all evidence discovered points to hunter gatherer settlements and nothing ‘advanced’
There have been over 100 what we think were cities found but I wouldn't say "extensive" exploration has been done. Most of what we know about have been in the Mediterranean and have been relatively shallow and from what I would call recent on the geological timescale. We don't know if there are more that have been totally buried in silt or by tectonic movements or just too deep for our current technology. It is frequently said we know more about the surface of the moon than the seabed.
What we have found are still not well researched due to how hard it is to work underwater, currents move and destroy artifacts, sedimentation buries things beyond our ability to excavate them and the seawater destroys metals.
All of this just illustrates the point made in the first post. All of the experts were so sure they had it figured out and then Gobeki Tepe was discovered and reset the status quo. It would be hubris of a high order to think similar discoveries aren't waiting to reset the status quo in the future.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 5:23 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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I've heard Graham obliterated the other guy
You heard wrong.quote:I guarantee all of your faves have. He's basically the father of alt history grifting, and was the most outspoken alt history theorist regarding the pyramids.
Sichin? Again, no idea. Never heard of / don't follow him
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there are a bunch of free thinkers
quote:Yeah? Like what?
who ask very basic and relevant questions regarding all sorts of ancient monuments that "™" doesn't address
quote:Researchers long ago proved that the Egyptians had the ability to build the pyramids, and all historical evidence has indicated they were built during the 4th dynasty.
doesn't address. It's just "a bunch of slaves and some sort of super strong magical rope" that no one can replicate and oh yeah, also an array of tools that we can't find ANY evidence of existing. And the rock pounding and copper tools don't cut granite with anywhere near the precision needed on a large-scale project.
But you don't know any of that, because you don't care. All you do is listen to people's alt history theories and take their word for it. You're doing it right now. You parrot the accusation that 'the scientific establishment' is too locked into their orthodoxy to even entertain alt history theories, but that's actually what you are doing.
And what the frick is this "™" thing you keep doing? Do you think existing research is like some kind of corporation or something? Like they're all 'in on it' together?
No, dude. The ones with the biggest money interests are the alt history grifters. Posted on 5/5/24 at 5:36 pm to blueboy
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Researchers long ago proved that the Egyptians had the ability to build the pyramids,
No, they didn't. This is the same type of energy as 'the science is settled' and 'cOviD cONspIrAcy' garbage.
This is why, in part, the Great Pyramids are so mind bending. We don't know how they were built, or specifically why.
Now, I don't buy the "to harness energy" from the air or some nonsense. Others fall into that camp, but not me.
Gobekli Tepe and other locations really have tipped established understandings on its head.
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who ask very basic and relevant questions regarding all sorts of ancient monuments that "™" doesn't address
Yeah? Like what?
The Schist disc.
The 'sarcophagi' of the Serapeum.
The head of the Sphynx. ( and whatever the heck is beneath it)
Look, I know there are 'accepted, official sounding explanations' for these things, but I don't buy them at face value. Some are just laughable.
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 5/5/24 at 5:57 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:Yes, they have. They don't know the exact methods, but teh Egyptians were more than capable of building them. You know, just like they built a lot of the other structures that no one seems to be debating.
No, they didn't.
quote:I love this one. No, GT hasn't proven alt history grifters right. It's actually done the opposite. And the notion that they 'just appeared' is proven bullshite.
Gobekli Tepe and other locations really have tipped established understandings on its head.
quote:What about them? Or are you just spitting out highlight topics?
The Schist disc.
The 'sarcophagi' of the Serapeum.
The head of the Sphynx.
They don't know what the disc was for, but none of that proves any alt hisotry theories right. They don't know how the sarcophagi were placed where they are, but they definitely know who out them there and why. A helpful clue is the actual writing that appears all over them.
As for the Sphynx, it is generally agreed that it was built before the pyramids and that the head was very possibly reshaped but there is absolutely ZERO evidence to suggest that it was made by Atlanteans or anyone 12000 years ago or anywhere near that timeline. People have gone beneath it more than once over the decades and nothing has been found, so you and Edgar Cayce are just going to have to DWI.
Posted on 5/5/24 at 6:00 pm to MikeD
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Listen to that Rogan program, there has been extensive underwater exploration and all evidence discovered points to hunter gatherer settlements and nothing ‘advanced’
They both seemed too close minded on the issue. We can both be doing a good job of deciding where to look and still miss things because the world is a big place and a lot of the places ancient civilizations may be are not that accessible today.
What I don’t get is how these 2 opposing forces don’t work together. What is stopping them from looking in more places is more funding. Hancock creates interest in the topic and more interest usually can lead to more money. This debate on Rogan was way better for archaeology than the silliness of trying to get Hancock’s show cancelled.
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 5/5/24 at 6:08 pm to blueboy
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Yes, they have. They don't know the exact methods, but teh Egyptians were more than capable of building them. You know, just like they built a lot of the other structures that no one seems to be debating.
They CLAIM they know, but to date, no testable, repeatable experiments have been performed that work.
I like how you ask why did I randomly offer up examples, which YOU asked for, but then casually admit.. "Well yeah, they're unusual and we can't explain how they were made, but that doesn't disprove anything! "
Hey, it's OK to not know stuff.
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