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re: Judge Merchan found Trump in violation of gag order for saying Manhattan blue/dem jurors

Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:27 pm to
Diaf
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
787 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:32 pm to
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CNN cut half the clip. They missed the beginning statement of Trump saying the Judge was conflicted.

Still, how is the Judge being conflicted not a true Statement?



The decision only references the part made about the jury. I put the four statements from the motion, and the judges decision below. I agree that it seems a little benign just referencing where the jury is located.

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1. By virtue of a statement Defendant made to the media in the hallway of 100 Centre Street, outside the door to Supreme Court of the State of New York, County of New York Part 59, on April 22, 2024, at approximately 72:40 P.M. after court adjoumed for the day. Among
other things, Defendant stated "And when are they going to look at all the lies that Cohen did in the last trial? He got caught lying in the last trial. So he got caught lying, pure lying. And when are they going to look at that?" Conroy Affumation Ex. E.

2. By virtue of an interview defendant gave on April 22, 2024, at approximately 6:00 P.M. to a program called Just the News No Noise, which is broadcast on a network called Real America's Voice. Among other things, Defendant stated "You know [the judge is] rushing the trial like crazy. Nobody's ever seen a thing go like this. That jury was picked so fast 95%o democrats. The area's mostly all democrat. You think of it as a -just a purely democrat area. It's a very unfair situation that I can tell you." Conroy Affumation Ex. F.

3. By virtue of an interview Defendaflt gave to a program called "Action News" which is an ABC news affiliate in Pennsylvania, on April,23, 2024, wbich aired at approximately 5:56 P.M. Among other things, Defendant stated "'WelI, Michael Cohen is a convicted liar and he's got no credibility whatsoever ... Michael Cohen was a convicted liar ... but what he did
is he did some pretty bad things[.]" Conroy Affirmation Ex. G.

4. By virtue of a press event Defendant held at 49d Street and Park Avenue in Manhattan on April 25, 2024, at approximately 6:35 A.M. in response to a question about David Pecker's ongoing testimony in this trial: "He's been very nice, I mean he's been - David's been very
nice. A nice guy." Conroy Affirmation Ex. H

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Defendant violated the Order by making public statements about the jury and how it was selected.
NY Courts

Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3472 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:12 pm to
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Gham
quote:

Leto II


Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16776 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:14 pm to
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Put the judge in jail instead for civil rights violations.


I’d love to see the the melt if Trump says when he gets elected he’s going to appoint a special counsel to investigate if any laws were broken in his political persecution.

And yes he should.
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22978 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:40 pm to
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He should recuse himself.


The judge should be working the fry machine at Wendys. He's that bad right now
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147345 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 3:58 pm to
it is a sad joke. will any jury member watch Trump on America's Voice and think.....oh my goodness I will stop my vile hatred for him and vote to acquit because the dress in the dressing room don't fit because it didn't exist.

or a partial fair jurist watch the clip and think 'oh my he is being railroaded.' because I heard him on Pluto Free TV.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50407 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:01 pm to
Those posters are evil. Period.

They want you jailed for your beliefs.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5623 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:02 pm to
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Him and this other NY Civil trial Judge, Fannie Willis, and Jack Smith as well...these frickers are BLATANTLY flaunting the law and judicial ethics both


I would seriously consider a federal lawsuit against the judge for the gag order and fines as a forst amendment violation

I think it may stop the trial but doubtful
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10949 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:03 pm to
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he should've committed this particular crime in a red state then.
at least you numbnuts have stopped pretending that you haven't weaponized the Justice system.
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Born2rock
Member since Oct 2022
910 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:14 pm to
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I believe Orwell said something along the lines of truth being what the state said it meant.
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Truth has no agenda.
Posted by Born2rock
Member since Oct 2022
910 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:15 pm to
The judge should just go ahead and lock up Trump's arse....do it over the weekend. Simple.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14833 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:22 pm to
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The judge should just go ahead and lock up Trump's arse....do it over the weekend. Simple


Just that easy right, commie?
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20450 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:37 pm to
Put Trump in jail. I triple-dog dare you.

No... I quadruple-dog dare you...
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1970 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 4:59 pm to
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He should have thrown this case out. He should have charged Alvin Bragg with prosecutorial misconduct. Etc. Of the many related things he should have done, he's chosen to do none of them.


So far the prosecution has not shown a single piece of evidence that any laws were broken. The only crime so far is the refusal to follow the unprecedented gag order.

As above said, the judge should not have allowed the case to proceed but now he should be reprimanding and threatening the prosecution to start trying to save his own azz. He should as the prosecution if they have a better case to made and if not then shut it down right now and save the public the tax dollars and the jury their time sitting on a dog of a trial.

Then he should remove the gag order under the reasoning that the gag order apears to be the only crime the prosecution can prosecute.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19715 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Put the judge in jail instead for civil rights violations.


CIVIL RIGHTS CONSPIRACY


18 U.S.C. § 241

Conspiracy Against Rights

Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in the United States in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his or her having exercised such a right.

Unlike most conspiracy statutes, §241 does not require, as an element, the commission of an overt act.

The offense is always a felony, even if the underlying conduct would not, on its own, establish a felony violation of another criminal civil rights statute. It is punishable by up to ten years imprisonment unless the government proves an aggravating factor (such as that the offense involved kidnapping aggravated sexual abuse, or resulted in death) in which case it may be punished by up to life imprisonment and, if death results, may be eligible for the death penalty.

Section 241 is used in Law Enforcement Misconduct and Hate Crime Prosecutions. It was historically used, before conspiracy-specific trafficking statutes were adopted, in Human Trafficking prosecutions.



MISCONDUCT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT & OTHER GOVERNMENT ACTORS


18 U.S.C. § 242

Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

This provision makes it a crime for someone acting under color of law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. It is not necessary that the offense be motivated by racial bias or by any other animus.

Defendants act under color of law when they wield power vested by a government entity. Those prosecuted under the statute typically include police officers, sheriff’s deputies, and prison guards. However other government actors, such as judges, district attorneys, other public officials, and public school employees can also act under color of law and can be prosecuted under this statute.

Section 242 does not criminalize any particular type of abusive conduct. Instead, it incorporates by reference rights defined by the Constitution, federal statutes, and interpretive case law. Cases charged by federal prosecutors most often involve physical or sexual assaults. The Department has also prosecuted public officials for thefts, false arrests, evidence-planting, and failing to protect someone in custody from constitutional violations committed by others.
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