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re: Unbelievable stats for Kling and Milazzo today on Upon Further Review

Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:08 am to
Posted by FredbullTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:08 am to
when you make the statement that he didn't contribute much Is there a reason you left out runs and RBI?
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:11 am to
Yes because we were discussing BA and OBP since the beginning

Kling has not been a good lead off hitter or hitter in sec play. He hasn’t. But he is the best of our 3rd options in the OF

That’s where the conversation should be for anyone not being emotional
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:16 am to
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May be the worse formatting and grammar I’ve seen in this board

Might want to take another peek at your post, brother.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70511 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:28 am to
quote:

So in those 4 wins he was

.200 BA / .300 OBP / 5 ks / 2 walks


Yeh, don’t think that contributed much


He also saw, on average, 4.3 pitches per plate appearance in the those 4 games. 78 pitches over 18 PAs. Including a 1 pitch HBP.

I understand it's not the most glamourous thing to look at, but we're discussing guys that aren't separating themselves by outcomes. His defense puts him ahead of the others, but he's also seeing more pitches than the other batters. (Brown, with a 7 pitch walk thrown in only saw 3.25 per PA against A&M)

It's a contribution that's difficult to quantify, but it's definitely a positive contribution. We have to look on the margins to separate the players. This one of the marginal positives that goes in Kling's column.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:30 am to
Kling should be the 3rd outfielder. I 100% agree. But he is a poor lead off hitter for SEC standards. No need to try and sell ourselves a lie as fans
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:35 am to
I'm not advocating for him to lead off. I'm not overly concerned with line up construction in general as long as your highest OBP guys are clustered together.

Just adding some support for him being in the lineup in general.

Again, it's marginal, but when none of the players are separating themselves by outcomes, the differences are on the margins. And what Kling does with longer at bats and more sure defense has a larger positive effect on the team as a whole.
Posted by FredbullTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2023
1245 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:40 am to
He had a key double that drove in two of our six runs, which happened to be the only Sunday SEC game we have won all year. Not to mention he tied the game up for us when Mizzou was winning 2-0 in the top of the 5th. Apparently, we have different views on what contributing means.
Posted by FredbullTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2023
1245 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:42 am to
Outside of a few of us, most of us agree that he needs to be hidden in the 8-hole. I'm really not aware of anyone that wants to see him leadoff. And no one that is really serious gives much to this record when he bats leadoff stat.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13701 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:44 am to
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I’m going to be honest, I don’t really care that much about any stats that aren’t from conference games


Certainly mean a whole lot less.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:45 am to
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Yeh, don’t think that contributed much


In a 2-0 game on Sunday Vs Missouri, he had a 2 run double in the 5th that tied the game at 2-2.

But yea, who, likes facts.

His OBP for those games was .333, not .300, too. Who likes facts tho huh pridey
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:48 am to
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But he is a poor lead off hitter for SEC standards.


No one on this team is a good leadoff hitter by SEC standards
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16516 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:57 am to
I don't see an obvious leadoff batter for us. Maybe Larson?

I will point out Kling got a nice hit off the Aggie closer in G3. He was for 1-2 vs NW but also had a BB and HBP. His out was a hard hit lineout to SS.

He seems to have deliberately adjusted his swing. All of this is a positive.

Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
2993 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:07 am to
He has hit midweek level well all year then flopped in weekend play. He has shown that his performance in midweek games like Northwestern has no correlation to his weekend performance.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:08 am to
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No one on this team is a good leadoff hitter by SEC standards
Yes, and?

Kling should start for this team. Doesn’t mean we need to start a thread or threads to try and talk ourselves into him being good
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 11:10 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:12 am to
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His OBP for those games was .333, not .300, too. Who likes facts tho huh pridey
He went to the plate 17 times, registering 15 at bats

He got on base 5 times(3 hits, 2 walks)

It’s actually a .294 OBP. I was being nice rounding up to .300

Facts, lesty…..
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 11:19 am
Posted by FredbullTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2023
1245 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:23 am to
Oh boy…
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:27 am to
Lester did 5/15 to figure his .333

Lester did not accurately calculate OBP…..
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65066 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:28 am to
quote:

He went to the plate 17 times, registering 15 at bats

He got on base 5 times(3 hits, 2 walks)

It’s actually a .294 OBP. I was being nice rounding up to .300

Facts, lesty…..

you left out a HBP in the Auburn win. That would give him 18 plate appearances and reaching base safely 6 times. 6/18 is .333

Facts pridey...
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70511 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:29 am to
quote:

He went to the plate 17 times, registering 15 at bats

He got on base 5 times(3 hits, 2 walks)

It’s actually a .294 OBP. I was being nice rounding up to .300

Facts, lesty…..


He went to the plate 18 times. You're not counting the HBP. 6/18 is .333
Posted by FredbullTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2023
1245 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:29 am to
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