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re: Florida deputy fatally shot US airman that answered the door with a gun

Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:31 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:31 am to
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Also not reading the entire thread to see if it’s been mentioned, but anyone with a military background that wasn’t a POG, or anyone that has a police background will tell you that doorway is a fatal funnel.


You don't need to be a meat-eating door kicker to know why he moved out of the doorway but doing so along with not identifying as police prevents the person from inside having any idea who is banging on the other side of the door.


I admit the police have a conundrum in that tactics designed to increase their safety also decrease the public's ability to quickly and accurately identify them. The significant increase in citizens exercising their 2A rights both at home and in public produces a significant increase in police encountering weapons. If police continue to set SOP in a way that their operations are increasingly mimicking MOUT missions we are going to continue to see this sort of outcome. This is going to continue to erode the public's confidence in the police. I know quite a few people who not long ago were solidly in the Back the Blue camp and are now leaning more toward playing NWA in their mental soundtrack.

For years the tactical trajectory of police SOP has made it less safe for law-abiding citizens in interactions with the police unless moderated it will result in a major pushback.
Posted by FredbullTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2023
1265 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:39 am to
I agree. I think it’s past time to have that conversation. Outside of graduating in Criminal Justice I don’t really have law enforcement experience. I’m a military guy so anything I say has limited knowledge on the topic.

In my eyes, if a certain call is the most dangerous for law enforcement, then sending one guy to the call to go bang on the door probably isn’t the best idea for either party.

I mean can we issue these guys ballistic shields where they can knock and then take cover and create some distance between themselves and the perceived threat? I’m not watching the video bc I have seen enough of that shite, but from the screenshots it looks like there was no distance to be able to allow calmer heads to prevail.

I dunno what the answer is and I support law enforcement, but this can’t happen.
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