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re: Florida deputy fatally shot US airman that answered the door with a gun

Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:12 am to
Posted by FredbullTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2023
1278 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:12 am to
I like my chances of having the extra protection of wall studs, fire blocks, drywall, stucco, and anything else that could stop or slow a projectile down as opposed to a shitty metal apartment door. But that’s just me. You do you.

Not to mention once he is standing in the doorway and it’s open he has absolutely zero cover.

There is an argument to me made that had he still been to the side, there is a chance based on what his field of view was, that he doesn’t see the gun in the first place and this whole thing ends with everyone alive.

Then again your hardcore back the blue people will argue that could have gotten the cop killed. Like I said, time to have a serious talk about tactics and training.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 11:19 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72703 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 1:58 pm to
Bit of a difference between clearing rooms in Iraq and knocking on doors at the beach...
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18059 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 3:39 am to
quote:

I like my chances of having the extra protection of wall studs, fire blocks, drywall, stucco, and anything else that could stop or slow a projectile down as opposed to a shitty metal apartment door. But that’s just me. You do you.


Studs give you under 10% chance of deflecting a bullet at 16" oc. Fire blocking? Sure, if the cop is 8 foot tall or in the apartment next door. The lathe the extremely thin stucco layer goes over may put up the most resistance, and that metal is thinner than a shitty apartment door You obviously don't build, despite tossing out word salad of construction words.

quote:

There is an argument to me made that had he still been to the side, there is a chance based on what his field of view was, that he doesn’t see the gun in the first place and this whole thing ends with everyone alive.


No, the argument starts from moment 1 when the officer arrives. The woman he sent away from the scene was the lone "witness."

Officer: are they fighting
Witness: redacted audio, for some odd reason, followed by some hearsay about she says it happens frequently.

Then...

Officer: "which door"
Witness: "I'm not sure," then some story about hearing noise 2 fricking weeks ago and an admission she had no idea where the slap noise/arguing came from. Then came some bullshite about why she didn't call the cops that day.

Officer: again with the which door question
Witness: now magically knows it's 1401

That should send up a frick ton of red flags to everyone with a shred of critical thinking skills. Officer then sends away the "witness" who moments earlier had no idea which door,cto direct backup to him. Officer doesn't wait for backup, despite your claims of how dangerous the situation is, proceeds to engage someone in a highly suspicious manner, then kills them fractions of a second after they open their door. Not a single fricking thing about this event is good police work, outside of arriving post call. Straight downhill from that moment on.
This post was edited on 5/12/24 at 6:15 am
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