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re: Pels want to move to top of draft, BI to be “aggressively” shopped per Stein
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:19 pm to Pels_Yaz
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:19 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Instead you want the same impact as BI regardless of fit.
For all his faults, he's a top 40-50 player
This draft pick is lucky to be a Dyson Daniels
Hawkins as a rookie is almost certainly going to be better than 5 as a rookie and we all saw how much run Hawkins got.
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This draft pick is lucky to be a Dyson Daniels
This is a complex incorrect answer based on pure spectrum of bullshite.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:21 pm to WicKed WayZ
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but also the really good player we would get in the trade
Does this exist?
This discussion is about a pick-centered trade
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:21 pm to Pels_Yaz
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This is a complex incorrect answer based on pure spectrum of bullshite.
This draft sucks dude
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Does this exist? This discussion is about a pick-centered trade
I love how you decided no one picked at 5 in this draft will do anything. Have you pro scouted every guy in this draft to make this determination??
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:23 pm to Pels_Yaz
The Rockets are likely to make the No. 3 overall pick available in trade discussions for a win-now piece, per @wojespn.
After aggressively pursuing him at the trade deadline, don’t be surprised if Houston circles back around with the Nets on Mikal Bridges.
Jabari and 3 for BI and 21. I want to believe
After aggressively pursuing him at the trade deadline, don’t be surprised if Houston circles back around with the Nets on Mikal Bridges.
Jabari and 3 for BI and 21. I want to believe
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This draft sucks dude
Lol sucks in franchise player talent. That doesn’t mean there aren’t very good players in this draft. I think you’re literally acting like these guys won’t be in the NBA after 3 years. Thats absurd.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:25 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Have you pro scouted every guy in this draft to make this determination??
No
But all the guys who know the draft basically universally agree it sucks
That means it's highly unlikely to get an impact player at 5, but obviously not impossible. Jokic and Herb were 2nd rounders, you know. No reason we can't draft those types in the 2nd every year.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:26 pm to Pels_Yaz
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think you’re literally acting like these guys won’t be in the NBA after 3 years. Thats absurd.
Somebody brought up 2020 earlier
Go look at 2-10
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But all the guys who know the draft basically universally agree it sucks That means it's highly unlikely to get an impact player at 5, but obviously not impossible.
In franchise changing talent yes. That doesn’t mean there aren’t impact players at other levels.
You’re comparing the fifth pick to the 2nd round??? Yeah I think you’re definitely on the spectrum.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Somebody brought up 2020 earlier Go look at 2-10
Look at the first round it had lamelo, maxey, haliburton, bane, cole anthony, vassell- you think these guys have no impact???!!
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:31 pm to Pels_Yaz
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That doesn’t mean there aren’t impact players at other levels.
Then we should trade BI for vet role players instead of gambling on hopefully getting one at 5. We have the salary to do that
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:32 pm to Pels_Yaz
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lamelo
Only guy in the range I stated
May be a negative asset now
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then we should trade BI for vet role players instead of gambling on hopefully getting one at 5. We have the salary to do that
Thats not a bad option but neither is the draft. I just think its silly to completely dismiss the draft because analysts think it doesn’t have a franchise difference maker.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Only guy in the range I stated May be a negative asset now
You think lamelo is a negative asset? Lol what?
And why cant we look at picks in the first round below 10? oh it doesn’t fit your argument there- got it lol
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The counterpoint is we'll never attract good to great players in free agency, and also, we are not close to being a contender now, so while you're correct a vet role player is the safer option, a team and situation like we're in it could be argued it's worth the risk of the downside to take the swing to get the potential upside of the pick that the vet role player doesn't provide.
Then we should trade BI for vet role players instead of gambling on hopefully getting one at 5. We have the salary to do that
Basically, you want to take as many shots as you possibly can to get a really good player because franchises like ours don't generally get many of those opportunities.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:48 pm to Macintosh504
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After aggressively pursuing him at the trade deadline, don’t be surprised if Houston circles back around with the Nets on Mikal Bridges.
We really missed the boat when that trade went down. I think the Nets at the time would have loved to get BI to replace Durant instead of Bridges.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 11:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That means it's highly unlikely to get an impact player at 5, but obviously not impossible. Jokic and Herb were 2nd rounders, you know. No reason we can't draft those types in the 2nd every year.
We’re not going anywhere with BI at this point. And this team is not competitive in the West. Probably half of the teams would have swept us.
As frustrating as it is, playing the lottery with draft picks is our best bet.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:19 am to Soggymoss
This draft is Trash, we'd be doing them a favor. The number one pick will have a more likely chance of being just a starter and hopefully maybe an all star appearance on the high end
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:38 am to PelsRoe318
quote:so literally what Brandon Ingram has done but on a rookie contract. I’ll roll the dice on that.
This draft is Trash, we'd be doing them a favor. The number one pick will have a more likely chance of being just a starter and hopefully maybe an all star appearance on the high end
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