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re: I-10 Severe Weather threat - Monday May 13, 2024...

Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:24 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:24 am to
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The last tornado warning we got in Lake Charles (right before it went over my house) said "Extremely Dangerous" on it.

Most all tornado warnings say that. We were talking about the severe thunderstorm warning and the messaging it carried. You don't see that wording for those warnings very often.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:28 am to
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Most all tornado warnings say that. We were talking about the severe thunderstorm warning and the messaging it carried. You don't see that wording for those warnings very often.


Yeah they had some weird wording for that really bad storm in south Louisiana last month. The NWS said Catastrophic Storm Warning. I hadn't heard of that before but it got the point across.

They were right too. We got nailed with 70 mph gusts and at probably 1/3 of the houses in my neighborhood need new shingles.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54986 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:37 am to
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Yeah they had some weird wording for that really bad storm in south Louisiana last month. The NWS said Catastrophic Storm Warning. I hadn't heard of that before but it got the point across.

It goes back a couple years now.

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July 22, 2021 - Severe thunderstorms can be life-threatening, but not all severe storms are the same. Hazardous conditions range from tornadoes, large hail storms, and widespread straight-line winds called derechoes, to cloud-to-ground lightning and flash flooding. Starting August 2, the National Weather Service will better convey the severity and potential impacts from thunderstorm winds and hail by adding a “damage threat” tag to Severe Thunderstorm Warnings, similar to our Tornado and Flash Flood Warnings.

“Destructive” and “Considerable” Damage Threat Categories

We developed three categories of damage threat for Severe Thunderstorm Warnings. The categories, in order of highest to lowest damage threat, are destructive, considerable, and base. These tags and additional messaging are designed to promote immediate action, based on the threats.


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-The criteria for a destructive damage threat is at least 2.75 inch diameter (baseball-sized) hail and/or 80 mph thunderstorm winds. Warnings with this tag will automatically activate a Wireless Emergency Alert (WEA) on smartphones within the warned area.

-The criteria for a considerable damage threat is at least 1.75 inch diameter (golf ball-sized) hail and/or 70 mph thunderstorm winds. This will not activate a WEA.
 
-The criteria for a baseline or “base” severe thunderstorm warning remains unchanged, 1.00 inch (quarter-sized) hail and/or 58 mph thunderstorm winds. This will not activate a WEA. When no damage threat tag is present, damage is expected to be at the base level.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:15 pm to
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No word from NWS Lake Charles on where they have sent survey teams. I'd imagine Sulphur is one area.
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:20 pm to
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LONG TERM... (Wednesday night through Monday) Issued at 317 AM CDT Tue May 14 2024

Thursday, this front will begin to move back to the north. This front can be seen best via dew pt gradients. This frontal interface will be the area that the next system will begin to use to develop our next bout of rain. The warm front moves inland and stalls along and NW of coastal Mississippi by late Thu. Models are in disagreement on timing of this system, but they agree on the overall synoptic picture. The upper troughing to the west will help make this all possible again just like the issue we just came out of. Another short wave will exit the base with upper split flow continuing downstream. This is almost a diddo of what just occurred with some minor tweeks in placement. The main theme with this one will also be rainfall, but again, this complex of storms will also have the potential for severity as well. We will just have to get closer to the event to resolve the smaller details. &&





We going to do this all over again in 2-3 days?
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:40 pm to
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We going to do this all over again in 2-3 days?


Hope not. A lot of damage already to some of those areas.

I know La gets severe weather but this is quite a bit of it for one spring.
Posted by George Dickel
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:08 pm to
Things are heating up in NW MS.
Severe thunderstorm watch for NE MS, NW AL, and W TN until 8 pm.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19541 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:32 pm to
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This is almost a diddo


A what now?
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:45 pm to
Tennsippibama now in severe thunderstorm warning
Posted by Tiger Ike
SW Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
1454 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:44 pm to
NWS reporting the Sulphur Tornado was an EF3.

Wind Speeds 136-165mph

LINK

This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 3:45 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54986 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:50 pm to
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NWS reporting the Sulphur Tornado was an EF3.

Wind Speeds 136-165mph


That's significant. It wasn't an easy track, and didn't have a clear CC drop. It took looking at dust/light debris on the gust front getting wrapped into the circulation and just knowing that radar presentation on Velocity.

I'm kind of proud about that call:

@4:42 in page 3
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I wouldn't be surprised to see that it just had a tornado with it right around Sulphur.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 3:52 pm
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:31 pm to
yep, that confirms I was about 1/2 mile south of it.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:31 pm to
I saw a noticeable CC drop right around Westlake that followed right over I-10 and almost to I-10. I'm a little more surprised the radar didn't show a tighter signature because that was clearly a tornado. Was the Westlake tornado the the Sulphur tornado the same one?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:37 pm to










Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:38 pm to
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NWS reporting the Sulphur Tornado was an EF3.


Their Facebook post said EF2. See my post above
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54986 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:57 pm to
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Was the Westlake tornado the the Sulphur tornado the same one?

It would have been produced from a similar part of the storm, but it wasn't the same tornado.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54986 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:00 pm to
Yeah, the Sulphur tornado was an EF2. The KPLC article contradicts itself.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6632 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:58 pm to
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StarLink quit working in Franklinton.


Why do you need StarLink in Franklinton?
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6632 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:06 pm to
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That's significant. It wasn't an easy track, and didn't have a clear CC drop.


Outside of video evidence, why does it seem like tornadoes can go unnoticed in South Louisiana compared to places like Oklahoma?
Posted by Tiger Ike
SW Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
1454 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:11 pm to
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yep, that confirms I was about 1/2 mile south of it.


My wife, my youngest and I were in the parking lot waiting on curbside pick up (she thought we could beat the storm) . Being on the Southside of the building put us in a " safe enough spot" . When the high voltage lines behind us started arcing we knew shite was getting real.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 7:12 pm
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