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re: We pushed the poker chips in and made a huge bet
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:04 am to Screaming Viking
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:04 am to Screaming Viking
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what was available at pick 27 that would have been a sure fire starter?
false dilemma
also, it ignores the fact that Davenport is far from a "sure fire starter" and he cost a LOT more than 27 would have in isolation
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However, there is a window to play with an elite qb, and this short time frame must be taken advantage of.
so you agree if he's not a major contributor next year this is a disaster and we paid way too much
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:05 am to Rand AlThor
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with worse coaching against
One of his defensive line coaches at UTSA now coaches for The Chargers
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:07 am to BilJ
Right on bilj
I look at Davenport as best case scenario, he’s Aldon Smith(on the field), worst case he puts on 20 lbs and is Calais Campbell, playing inside and out. I see very little bust potential
And I don’t buy the raw/project narrative. That’s what people say about guys who come from CUSA type schools. He may not be Reggie White technique wise, but he isn’t a blank slate either.
I look at Davenport as best case scenario, he’s Aldon Smith(on the field), worst case he puts on 20 lbs and is Calais Campbell, playing inside and out. I see very little bust potential
And I don’t buy the raw/project narrative. That’s what people say about guys who come from CUSA type schools. He may not be Reggie White technique wise, but he isn’t a blank slate either.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:10 am to Screaming Viking
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what was available at pick 27 that would have been a sure fire starter?
I'm a fan of the pick if Davenport pans out, but Will Hernandez would be a day one starter at guard or given valuable depth to a position that is pivotal to our team.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:11 am to Packer
Who is Hernandez starting over?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:14 am to DBG
I thought we were trading up for Derwin James or Tremaine Edmunds.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:16 am to DBG
If Davenport was coming onto a weaker defense/DL, there would be slight concern...but this defense is pretty stacked across the board. Still need a little help at LB but the DL is deep.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:18 am to DBG
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Who is Hernandez starting over?
Kelemete played in every game last year, yet was technically a backup. So he would add valuable depth to a really thin position for the Saints with Kelemete gone
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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also, it ignores the fact that Davenport is far from a "sure fire starter"
The Saints FO 100% believes he is so I will too
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:23 am to Packer
So we should have taken a back lineman instead of a very likely impact day 1 starter? I would like to see better oline depth, but come on.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:30 am to Seeker
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I would like to see better oline depth, but come on.
Better OL depth? Currently we have zero OL depth with Kelemete and Strief gone
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:32 am to Packer
Yeah at this point unless we sign Austin Howard and draft an iOL today I'm nervous about OL 
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:33 am to Packer
plenty of mid rounders to secure depth there
you're not getting an elite rusher in the mid rounds or the odds are severely against it
you're not getting an elite rusher in the mid rounds or the odds are severely against it
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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like i said last night, there are going to be lots of goalposts moving over this year
Not from me, I've said it all along. The draft is for acquiring talent not having a Hall of Famer right out of the gate.
If he takes time to develop, and DOES develop, then its irrelevant.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
well set the goal posts jake
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:45 am to adamb2151
I agree. What do you know? You may very well be right but I feel like the front office deserves the benefit of the doubt. We won't know until the end of the season. I am never crazy about giving up a 1st round pick but go look at reactions to last year's draft after the draft and compare to reactions of the same draft picks after the season ended.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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i don't dislike the prospect. if we had been at 14-15 organically and had him fall to us i'd be super excited it's the cost and requirement of immediate, elite impact. it's just not even fair for the kid
Agree with all of this
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:28 am to H-Town Tiger
Let’s just see what happens. It’s a pretty big risk, but the FO has earned some slack with their moves the past 2-3 years.
We still have picks 3-5 this year. That’s exactly where you get a Senio Kelemete plug and play O-Line depth pick, that’s where you find a decent slot receiver or developable TE, and that’s right where you find a rotational DT or a project in the secondary.
We still have picks 3-5 this year. That’s exactly where you get a Senio Kelemete plug and play O-Line depth pick, that’s where you find a decent slot receiver or developable TE, and that’s right where you find a rotational DT or a project in the secondary.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:48 am to H-Town Tiger
still disagree that his impact next year has to be "elite" to justify the cost
also as DBG may have said earlier, I like that we're no longer depending on bill johnson to aid in his development
also as DBG may have said earlier, I like that we're no longer depending on bill johnson to aid in his development
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:50 am to Deactived
quote:Harold Landry?
and there wasnt much at 27 that would be a player people would have faith in making an immediate impact
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