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re: I'm becoming convinced that WW will be cleared
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:09 pm to ellessuuuu
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:09 pm to ellessuuuu
If the tape was not admitted why was a transcript of the tape made ?
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:10 pm to yaherrdme
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Even if cleared he may be done at LSU, because he will no longer be able to participate in the pay for play game
Even if cleared, he may be done with LSU for the way he was treated by Admin.
He was headed for a contract extension, but now both sides probably feel empowered to pull toward opposite ends of a spectrum, making agreement less likely.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:10 pm to beauxroux
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Makes sense. However, if I were the person with the vendetta.... I'd drip... drip.... drip... the information to the media. Drip... before SEC regular season... drip during SEC final (assuming LSU is there).... drip at the start of NCAA tourney and every game. But, I hope you are right.
What you say is also possible. For some reason, I believe Will Wade is sincere when he says this isn't close to the whole story. As in, there is a lot of context missing from what has been leaked.
I'm not saying he was 100% on the up and up, but perhaps it's a lot more minor than what the tape is supposed to make us believe.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:13 pm to JustSmokin
Just went and read the NCAA's Motion. Really hope the DOJ fights them on this. The ruling on that Motion is huge. Granted the only tape at issue is the one about a player that never came to LSU, but it would set a precedent for the second trial as to whether that evidence is released.
You are correct, the best thing possible at this point is that the second case is resolved through a plea deal and/or the Wade wiretaps/testimony are ruled inadmissible.
You are correct, the best thing possible at this point is that the second case is resolved through a plea deal and/or the Wade wiretaps/testimony are ruled inadmissible.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:14 pm to Willie Stroker
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He was headed for a contract extension, but now both sides probably feel empowered to pull toward opposite ends of a spectrum, making agreement less likely.
I agree, which is why, IF he is cleared, LSU has to get rid of all who were responsible for the way this went down. I think that would send a clear message to Wade that they are behind him and will find people to head the athletic department who will also back him.
If they don't, I can't see Will wanting to associate with them.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:17 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Wait for the incoming posters who are all oddly gleeful that you likely are wrong.
Oh, the shills?
Must be important for them to show up.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:19 pm to Metaloctopus
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IF he is cleared, LSU has to get rid of all who were responsible for the way this went down
Agree. They all have to go, starting with the governor.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:19 pm to lsutigermall
Dawkins is a bag man. He's not bribing anyone or being bribed. He's just the facilitator. If WW isn't put on the stand and IF there are no more leaks, and IF the FBI's involvement in all of this ends with Dawkins, they we can always hope that the NCAA is too stupid to pursue any further information on their own.
This is all starting to sound like Bill Jefferson and his "reasonable explanation" for the cash in his freezer, which, to this day, he still has not given us.
This is all starting to sound like Bill Jefferson and his "reasonable explanation" for the cash in his freezer, which, to this day, he still has not given us.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:21 pm to Metaloctopus
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I agree, which is why, IF he is cleared, LSU has to get rid of all who were responsible for the way this went down. I think that would send a clear message to Wade that they are behind him and will find people to head the athletic department who will also back him.
For the 75,000th time... it's hard to "back" your employee when they won't talk to you.
How is it not clear by now that the suspension is 100 percent due to insubordination? And it's not going to be lifted until such time as the insubordination ends.
WW may have his own selfish reasons for being insubordinate, but that has nothing to do with the LSU administration.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:27 pm to dave11
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The ncaa is aware of the transcript and will likely conduct its own investigation into the comments in the wiretap and other things
They are also aware of text messages from Bill Self making arrangements with Adidas to get players. "I'll do better next time. They are also aware of Zion Williamson turning down a six figure offer from Kansas to surprise everyone with a commitment to Duke. Of course, since his dad was selling Zion's services to the highest bidder, it only makes sense that he went to Duke for the experience.
The NCAA is aware of 50 programs caught in the pay for play scandal in one fashion or another. I guess they could reduce scholarships and give post-season bans to 50 schools. Yeah, not happening. If LSU doesn't fall on the sword like many of you are doing, the NCAA will have it's hands tied due to the sheer size of the scandal. Maybe it will force them to make some long needed changes.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
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How is it not clear by now that the suspension is 100 percent due to insubordination? And it's not going to be lifted until such time as the insubordination ends.
Because, for the 75,001st time, it is a federal case in which he has been subpoenaed to testify. He can't discuss it. LSU knows that. The whole idea of asking him to show up and answer questions, and then using his refusal to do so as the "reason" for suspending him, was nothing but grandstanding on the part of his bosses.
They had already made up their mind, because of media pressure (which they freaking admit that the media pressure played a part), that they were going to suspend him. They are grandstanding in an attempt to deflect criticism from the fans. But they failed miserably.
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:51 pm to Metaloctopus
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He can't discuss it. LSU knows that.
Exactly. The decision to fire Wade for what they hired him to do has already been made. They are setting the stage for it.
frick all of them. I wish upon them all the bad things in life, to them and no one else but them.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:56 pm to ellessuuuu
Exactly... Wade is suspended strictly because of media pressure... I'm not one to just make comments like that... I seriously believe with all of my heart, that if will wades situation wouldnt have been looked at with such extreme negativity, then he would still be leading the team, for the time being at least.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:58 pm to Metaloctopus
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He can't discuss it.
Absolutely false. he can discuss anything he wants to. There is no gag order on the case. He has chosen to not say anything and hide behind his lawyers.
Further, WW's "legal issues" are even more the reason LSU needs to talk to him and find out what's going on.
Tell you what... get a job, have something embarrassing and potentially part of a court case leak out to the media that involves your employment, refuse to meet with your boss, and let me know what happens to you.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:01 pm to Tigerpride18
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Wade is suspended strictly because of media pressure
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that if will wades situation wouldnt have been looked at with such extreme negativity,
Open flaunting of NCAA policies will generally reveal extreme negativity.
I strongly believe, with all of my heart, that if WW hadn't blabbered on a phone about his "offers", that he would still be leading the team, for the time being at least.
It's one thing to stick your head in the sand when there is nothing presented to you. But when someone is waving crap in your face, you can't ignore it.
WW's inexperience caused him to run his mouth. WW's inexperience caused him to "make a damn strong offer" instead of having his bagmen make the offer for him. Etc.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:04 pm to lsutigermall
I've seen folks spin this a 100 times. Wade's issues aren't criminal and the FBI don't really have any interest in him. The burden of proof is much different for the NCAA Committee on Infractions.
There's more than a reasonable suspicion based on the tape transcripts thus far that something improper was done. That's all the NCAA needs to open an investigation.
I wish it weren't so but "it is what it is." I would love for Wade to be vindicated or exonerated and stay at LSU but it just doesn't look good. Plus, we don't know if there is something more damning out there; the proverbial "other shoe to drop."
Folks keep getting angry when others point this out. But those folks are just posting based on what is known and not conjecture to explain it all away.
There's more than a reasonable suspicion based on the tape transcripts thus far that something improper was done. That's all the NCAA needs to open an investigation.
I wish it weren't so but "it is what it is." I would love for Wade to be vindicated or exonerated and stay at LSU but it just doesn't look good. Plus, we don't know if there is something more damning out there; the proverbial "other shoe to drop."
Folks keep getting angry when others point this out. But those folks are just posting based on what is known and not conjecture to explain it all away.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:04 pm to LSUFanHouston
Are you saying Wade give your employer enough information to fire you? Wade should keep quiet and if the administration decides to part ways he will get paid and a new job next season
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:05 pm to lsutigermall
quote:That'd be super cool wouldn't it.
I'm becoming convinced that WW will be cleared
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:15 pm to droc504
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Are you saying Wade give your employer enough information to fire you?
What?
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Wade should keep quiet and if the administration decides to part ways he will get paid and a new job next season
Doubt he gets paid anytime soon. He will have to sue for that money.
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:18 pm to ellessuuuu
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The NCAA doesn't need "admissible evidence" to punish Wade.
For the millionth time, Will Wade Is Not Under Investigation By The NCAA!!!
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 6:19 pm
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