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re: Dr. Dan Erickson of Bakersfield, CA Has Tested 5K+ People For Covid 19

Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:22 pm to
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These are the 2 guys that tested 5,000 people that came to their urgent cares and found 19% have COVID. They then used this number to say 19% of the entire country has COVID. Sorry, that’s not how it works. Those people came in because they were
5k is more people than some of the polls that get posted
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48517 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:23 pm to
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Hospitals and state governments have a financial interest in inflating Covid numbers. This is fact.


Thats completely false.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43451 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:23 pm to
I'm not arguing to keep things locked down. I'm firmly in the open up camp
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:24 pm to
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It’s that guy?


Yes. Urgent care owners. You know the type that do rigorous scientific studies
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
2461 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:24 pm to
You would probably enjoy the LED.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:25 pm to
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5k is more people than some of the polls that get posted


He’s not talking about antibody tests.

This is the nasal swab they have been doing for months and no 5k is nothing for the nasal swab active infection test.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4569 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:25 pm to
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My point is you could easily find many more doctors who disagree.

Could you?
Posted by omarlittle
Member since Mar 2011
1308 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:25 pm to
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These are the 2 guys that tested 5,000 people that came to their urgent cares and found 19% have COVID. They then used this number to say 19% of the entire country has COVID. Sorry, that’s not how it works. Those people came in because they were sick.


And we keep hearing that there are a ton of asymptomatic infections, which would make the death rate even lower, no?
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48517 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:27 pm to
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Could you?


The one I’m sitting next to.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:28 pm to
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Again, numbers. Serious question, how many doctors have come out and said this is overblown and no worse than a flu season?



Again, bias. There have been at least 4 doctors posted on the OT this week that have come out and said similar things. The Stanford doctor with the Greek name has been saying it for weeks, literally. How many of these perspectives have you ever seen on one a national media platform?

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My point is you could easily find many more doctors who disagree. What makes this guy's opinion better than the majority? Because you happen to share his viewpoint?


What makes the imperial college’s opinion that millions of people would die from this better than anyone else’s? That hasn’t stopped you from continuing to parrot those numbers in other threads on here.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48517 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:29 pm to
His argument about the actual mortality based on extrapolating the percent positive rate across the entire US is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.

I would take anything else this guy says with a huge grain of salt.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4569 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:31 pm to
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The one I’m sitting next to.

So we're sitting at 1:1.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48517 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:33 pm to
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So we're sitting at 1:1.


Well, the one I’m sitting next to runs a hospital not an Urgent Care clinic.

Also, the other one here agrees.

I showed them the article where he argues that 12% of the US population have COVID and both laughed.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:34 pm to
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And we keep hearing that there are a ton of asymptomatic infections, which would make the death rate even lower, no?


Correct. Way lower than you currently see. Just not as low as the flu. Everyone needs to let that idea go, but they don’t because they think it’s some type of strong evidence that we need to open up. The strongest evidence for going back to work is that we need to prevent economic meltdown and a worse problem. That would be true even if the mortality rate was 2%.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48517 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:37 pm to
In terms of good news, Dr. Hospital Administrator told me earlier that they are starting to think that the assay on the Abbott antibody tests is better than first thought.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48517 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:40 pm to
I had predicted a final CFR of 0.6%.

I will gladly eat crow of it comes in at 0.2-0.3%
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43451 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:41 pm to
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What makes the imperial college’s opinion that millions of people would die from this better than anyone else’s? That hasn’t stopped you from continuing to parrot those numbers in other threads on here.




1) they were agreed upon by the majority because it was the best science we had at the time. Well never know how wrong those worst-case models were.

2) I am not parroting those worst-case numbers. Those didn't come to fruition, thankfully, because we all locked down. I was making a point in another thread about why the lockdown was, in the moment, the soundest option.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
34457 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:42 pm to
Statistically speaking he’s right. You can’t extrapolate that data over the whole country because it’s not truly random.

The polls are shite too
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:43 pm to
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Dr. Hospital Administrator told me earlier that they are starting to think that the assay on the Abbott antibody tests is better than first thought.


Has this test already been utilized? I thought it wasn’t out yet.

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I had predicted a final CFR of 0.6%.


That’s where I have been for awhile
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48517 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:44 pm to
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Has this test already been utilized? I thought it wasn’t out yet.


They are using it in their system. Both doctors with me tested negative for COVID antibodies.

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