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re: Why does fentanyl even exist

Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:30 am to
Posted by NyCaLa
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:30 am to
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Thin down the herd


You wouldn't say crap like that if you lost a child to it.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:38 am to
For some patients in needed to keep them heavily sedated for their own good..... dilauded is a badass pain killer when injected. Not so much in pill form. I’ve had them all over the last 5 years.
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:49 am to
I gab been on Fentynyl patches at 125 micrograms every 72 hours for over a year. After radiation treatment almost 5 years ago for a rectal tumor, I was left with chronic radiation proctitus. The only way I can describe the pain is that it feels like someone shoved a pair of pliers up my arse and grabbed ahold of my rectal tissue and just starts twisting. The pain is completely debilitating. If the patches don't hold off the pain I have 10 mg oxycodone for breakthrough pain. I also use flexiril muscle relaxers to help with the rectal spasms that the docs think are causing most of the lingering pain.

For the record I have never felt any type of high from the fentanyl at all. If I need the oxycodone the sometimes I will feel a bit euphoric unless the pain is extreme like it gets to at times. Then I can take a double dose of oxycodone and not even feel any effects except the pain eases up until the oxy wears off.
I pray you never have to experience real, unrelenting, and severe pain. If you ever do then you will be glad that there are strong pain killers out there.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18928 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:55 am to
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Military medics use or used a fentanyl "lollypop" as a pain killler.


Strong analgesic effect without the respiratory depression associated with opioids. When I gave a patient morphine or an opioid I had to closely watch them for respiratory status. With a fentanyl pop, I could administer it and move on to another patient. Super valuable in a multi casualty situation.

Now using Ketamine because of its disassociative effects.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:57 am to
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Nobody uses MDMA in the hospital, ever. Not sure what medical use it has you speak of.


It was used with hypnosis to treat mental problems caused by traumatic events.

It is no longer allowed for this purpose and was moved to schedule I.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5214 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 10:58 am to
Fentanyl is used a lot in the operating room
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14255 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:00 am to
Fentanyl was and is an excellent drug for a vet to use if he/she needs to knock out a horse. I think that is the use that pushed its development. Like all drugs with multiple effects, it has evolved into other uses, many of them habit forming and eventually lethal.

As a drug for pain control in patients who were dying, to be used in the last few weeks before death, OxyContin is an excellent drug. To control the pain of common muscle strain and mild postoperative pain, it is being misused by physicians and drug salesmen in the push to accumulate nicer condos and top of the line BMWs.
Posted by LSURN98
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2019
448 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:01 am to
Yeah, they tried that with LSD too, and it also is never used in the hospital. Yet, there are clowns here claiming it has more medicinal value than fentanyl.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203438 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:03 am to
Damn. I have felt the same kinds of pain. Unbearable at times.
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
4919 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:04 am to
To kill people. A couple kids I went to HS with accidentally OD’d on it. They didn’t know that what they were taking had fentanyl in it. It’s terrible.

It’s laced in a lot of shite now, including Xanax that you get off the street. You can blame that on the Mexican Cartels and the Chinese. It’s absolutely fricking terrible.

New York Times.
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 11:13 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203438 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:05 am to
I have been put to sleep 19 times for surgery. And I believe it was used on me in all of them. I have had at least three over 4 hour operations. It’s very dangerous to keep someone asleep for that long.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14255 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:05 am to
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Lawn Darts


You young whippersnappers never experienced the thrill of throwing lawn darts at each other in a lawn dart war.

Probably never enjoyed an all afternoon BB gun war either.

Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:18 am to
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Why does fentanyl even exist
same reason weed exists, bc there are weak minded people who don't understand it is a weapon used against them
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203438 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:19 am to
Since when is weed a weapon??????
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14255 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:27 am to
I have a friend (Game Warden) who was in a jeep/Humvee/whatever that hit a camel going about 60 MPH during Bush War #1 in Iraq. We was being prescribed OxyContin in 200 tablet bottles and still would cry out from time to time if he moved wrong.

Then they put him on Fentanyl patches and now he is fine. Goes to work every day and does his job. Was with him when he took on an 8 foot long angry alligator in some guy's cow pasture, so maybe the stuff makes him fearless - I don't know.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6553 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:29 am to
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You wouldn't say crap like that if you lost a child to it.


Those with any kind of close exposure to addiction would not wish it on their worst enemy. It can destroy people, families, friends...
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10451 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:29 am to
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same reason weed exists, bc there are weak minded people who don't understand it is a weapon used against them
God is weaponizing nature against us? This is some militant atheist shite here.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7283 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:31 am to
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Fentanyl is used constantly, every day, by every anesthesiologist in every hospital in the USA.


My wife’s epidural was fentanyl
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15721 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:58 am to
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If you asked the nurse to take you off the morphine and give you Advil, you definitely don’t like to party.

Idk my body just wasn’t reacting normally I guess. Everybody has a different reaction based on body chemistry
Posted by arkansas tiger
Member since Jul 2004
41 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 11:58 am to
Fentanyl has been used in almost all labor epidurals for the past 30 years.
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