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Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:35 am to
Posted by GAAtty70
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:35 am to
So no free will.
Posted by AnyonebutSteelers
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2020
711 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:53 am to
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So no free will.



In a certain sense, there is free will. Suppose you put a long line of cocaine in front of a cocaine addict and tell him, "It's all yours." He technically has free will not to snort it. But you know he will.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9049 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:55 am to
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So no free will.


Your understanding of free will in this scenario is predicated upon a God that operates on the same chronological timeline that we do and has the same perception of time that we have.

God transcends time. God knows what will happen, not because we don't have free will, but because he exists in the past, present, and future.

This, of course, is metaphysical speculation. But not at all implausible for anyone who believes in an omnipotent and omnipresent God.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 10:56 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41784 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:53 pm to
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So no free will.
We don't have a free will. We have freedom of choice (volition), but not freedom of will. Our wills are tainted by sin like the rest of us.
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