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The court packing narrative is aggravating.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:16 pm
I try to keep a level head in politics. I use opposing views to either sharpen my views or help me better understand why exactly I do not think that way. I try to use them as a benefit to myself. That’s what free speech is all about.
Well I’m getting really really annoyed hearing the justification from Democrats about court packing. One of the senators from Maryland just said well we are only looking into reform because republicans are packing the court right now. It’s just willful ignorance and deception because they know most people won’t actually dig into the detail and the historical precedent.
Republicans have beaten to death the situations of nominations in a election year when the White House and senate are together or split. What happened in 2016 and what is happening now is completely in line with 250 years of history. There is no “unusual” gamesmanship happening. Yet the narrative is getting hammered to people that republicans are packing the court so democrats have to respond to save the republic from this sham and this political power grab.
The court had been liberal leaning for decades and now that the stars finally aligned politically for that to shift even the slightest bit and with one of the most qualified justices of all time, democrats are losing their shite over it and eventually will blow up the entire system. They will one day have both houses and the presidency again. The second that happens Puerto Rico and DC will be added as states and the number of justices will be expanded. That is going to happen. The democrats of today simply won’t let cooler heads prevail. It doesn’t matter if it’s this election or in 2, 4, 6, 8 years they will flip the board over at the first opportunity. Am I off base or is it essentially an inevitability at this point?
ETA: I can only thank the founding fathers for enshrining the electoral college in the constitution. I only wish that a previous generation had had the foresight to amend it and enshrine the justices at 9. Governmental Stability and compromise is what this nation is built on. I cannot stand power grabs for the sake of power like these ones we are seeing discussed.
Well I’m getting really really annoyed hearing the justification from Democrats about court packing. One of the senators from Maryland just said well we are only looking into reform because republicans are packing the court right now. It’s just willful ignorance and deception because they know most people won’t actually dig into the detail and the historical precedent.
Republicans have beaten to death the situations of nominations in a election year when the White House and senate are together or split. What happened in 2016 and what is happening now is completely in line with 250 years of history. There is no “unusual” gamesmanship happening. Yet the narrative is getting hammered to people that republicans are packing the court so democrats have to respond to save the republic from this sham and this political power grab.
The court had been liberal leaning for decades and now that the stars finally aligned politically for that to shift even the slightest bit and with one of the most qualified justices of all time, democrats are losing their shite over it and eventually will blow up the entire system. They will one day have both houses and the presidency again. The second that happens Puerto Rico and DC will be added as states and the number of justices will be expanded. That is going to happen. The democrats of today simply won’t let cooler heads prevail. It doesn’t matter if it’s this election or in 2, 4, 6, 8 years they will flip the board over at the first opportunity. Am I off base or is it essentially an inevitability at this point?
ETA: I can only thank the founding fathers for enshrining the electoral college in the constitution. I only wish that a previous generation had had the foresight to amend it and enshrine the justices at 9. Governmental Stability and compromise is what this nation is built on. I cannot stand power grabs for the sake of power like these ones we are seeing discussed.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 4:24 pm
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:20 pm to jlovel7
There isn’t a reasonable person in this country who would disagree with you.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:20 pm to jlovel7
There are no more moderate Democrats. The party has lurched hard left. I am afraid you are absolutely correct.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:23 pm to jlovel7
The democratic party has been broken, either by Trump or the radicals, or possibly by both.
I would say there is a high likelihood you are seeing the end of the democratic party as we know it, I would say its already gone. Trump basically killed the republican party as well, we're just pretending it exists.
I would say there is a high likelihood you are seeing the end of the democratic party as we know it, I would say its already gone. Trump basically killed the republican party as well, we're just pretending it exists.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:23 pm to jlovel7
It’s because the constitution prevents dems from doing the vast majority of what they think government should do, so the only way to make it happen is to control the branch that is charged with deciding if a law is constitutional.
I’m bothered more by the fact that they’re so secretive about their plans. Why are they so scared to tell the people the truth about what they plan to do? If being honest causes you to lose an election then accept that Americans don’t want what you’re selling, no matter how great you think it is
I’m bothered more by the fact that they’re so secretive about their plans. Why are they so scared to tell the people the truth about what they plan to do? If being honest causes you to lose an election then accept that Americans don’t want what you’re selling, no matter how great you think it is
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:24 pm to jlovel7
It takes a certain type of pathological degenerate who can so casually and convincingly lie about anything if they think it helps their agenda.
There is a real sickness with the Democratic party. It's a mental disease.
They'll do and say just about anything if it is a means to an end.
They have the same puritanical zeal as those who persecuted innocent citizens back during the Salem witch trials. And yes, they'd fit right in w/ the Nazis or the Khmer Rouge.
There is a real sickness with the Democratic party. It's a mental disease.
They'll do and say just about anything if it is a means to an end.
They have the same puritanical zeal as those who persecuted innocent citizens back during the Salem witch trials. And yes, they'd fit right in w/ the Nazis or the Khmer Rouge.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:26 pm to jlovel7
The huge problem with SCOTUS appointments is that the Republicans typically got for literalists and constitutionalists while the Democrats go for hard core lefty activist judges like RBG.
Only one side us actually trying to protect the validity of the Constitution.
Progressives would rather burn it than save it.
Only one side us actually trying to protect the validity of the Constitution.
Progressives would rather burn it than save it.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:26 pm to jlovel7
Court packing is as legal as what the republicans are doing.
It is a dangerous precedent and bad for the country but I would Argue ramming through a justice is as well.
One of those “elections have consequences”
Of course wouldn’t the solution be that when the republicans have the votes to shrink the court and ditch the junior justices? Edit: this would be unconstitutional as someone pointed out.
It is a dangerous precedent.
It is a dangerous precedent and bad for the country but I would Argue ramming through a justice is as well.
One of those “elections have consequences”
Of course wouldn’t the solution be that when the republicans have the votes to shrink the court and ditch the junior justices? Edit: this would be unconstitutional as someone pointed out.
It is a dangerous precedent.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:14 pm to jlovel7
I agree with you wholeheartedly on this. I think the republicans stuck to a strategy they identified a long time ago and the democrats kept losing focus, which is why we have a decisively conservative SC.
I am incredibly disappointed with the timing of RBG's death but if the democrats try to add the number of justices to the SC I'd be more disappointed. I'd rather they focus on legislation of progressive issues rather than expecting the courts to do it for them.
I am incredibly disappointed with the timing of RBG's death but if the democrats try to add the number of justices to the SC I'd be more disappointed. I'd rather they focus on legislation of progressive issues rather than expecting the courts to do it for them.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:27 pm to jlovel7
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republicans are packing the court right now
100% false.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:32 pm to jlovel7
Correct & old baw from Utah said it very well today
Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:38 pm to jlovel7
I think packing the court would be an act of war.
Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:06 pm to jlovel7
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The second that happens Puerto Rico and DC will be added as states and the number of justices will be expanded. That is going to happen.
This will never happen.
Adding those two as states requires amending the Constitution, something that has happened 28 times in nearly 250 years. Besides, I believe there is a clause included in the creation of the District of Columbia that precludes it from ever becoming eligible for statehood.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:47 am to jlovel7
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Trump already packed the courts
- ConZ
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