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UAP /paranormal primer: essential information for what is to come

Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:07 am
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:07 am
I wanted to create a thread with themes that surround this issue (geared to folks who have zero background). Each topic could be massive threads on their own (and some have been). I will try add only high quality links.

This is an effort to keep info in 1 place. I will bump it as events evolve.

Starting with most concrete to fringe:

2017 NY Times article confirmed a high level Pentagon program that was studying UAP (unidentified aerial phenomenon). At the center of the story was Lue Elizondo (director of the program left to join a group started by Tom Delonge called To The Stars Academy (TTSA) which also consisted of high level folks from the IC

The 2017 article focuses on events of the coast of San Diego in the early 2000s witnessed by Navy pilots (a Tic Tac shaped object that defied known physics)

Recent reports from Navy and DNI suggests more information is incoming (pending summer report to Congress)

Elizondo has given many interesting talks. Below I feel is one of the most interesting:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1FsJKuZpjj8&t=123s

Talks about defining “human” and “mankind” and paranormal experiences being advanced physics. I have listened to many of his talks. I keep coming back away with the impression that the phenomenon is based on Earth (underground /under the ocean) or close by (in the moon)

Concurrently TTSA put out a series of books outlining what they feel the phenomenon represents. They firmly jump into ancient alien territory with human historical interactions with “gods” actually being interactions with the phenomenon. Ancient cultures describe/depict civilizing forces that came from the sea. Native American describe star people. They also feel their ancestors came from within the Earth. Moses and Muhammad experienced god/angels in caves/mountains.

The takeaway is that the phenomenon appears to be a civilizing force/ control system. To what end? This directly challenges manmade control systems...

The phenomenon resides at the fringes of human capability (underwater, underground, and in/on the moon). Below is a video on how the moon is not a natural satellite. IMO the moon is a nod to advanced intelligence (and some of my favorite artists have referenced this )

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XWg0Md3dXo0&feature=youtu.be

The big question for most is who/what are behind all of this. I do not feel there is one singular answer but may be a combination of below:

- spiritual war between angels/demons and light/dark (well documented)
- ultraterrestrials. Civilization that has coevolved with human on earth (mankinds...)
- inter-dimensional beings. Live alongside us, but we do not always perceive them (enhanced by prayer, meditation, drugs that change state/perception. Think burning bush)
- intelligent AI. The crafts are the intelligence or projections of intelligence in a post biological civilization
-simulation/holographic universe. Phenomenon is a moderator of sorts
- breakaway human civilization lives alongside white world humanity. The speculation is the Nazis literally went underground and off world. They influence behind the scene and are currently driving the push for 1 world governance (initially infiltrated US through project paperclip paving the way for our space program and advanced mind control techniques which has evolved into advanced tactics using false flags, MSM and social media platforms).

Another consideration involves the concern that surface life on Earth has been cyclical destroyed by bollide impacts. Much more recent than is accepted. Cataclysm and rebirth may be a more common theme /occurrence than we realize. The phenomenon may be a control system regulating this process

Much to consider. Much of it is also shrouded in deception.

I am very concerned for how most people will handle things even if 10% of above is proven as each theme generates uncertainty in most manmade control constructs (organized religion, government, social constructs) which will introduce ontological shock for most

I do not pretend to have all the answers. I appreciate constructive criticisms/other viewpoints.
This post was edited on 10/23/21 at 9:31 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:09 am to


Yes.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:10 am to
quote:

UAP (unidentified aerial phenomenon)


I don’t get the nomenclature change here.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:15 am to
Too bad there not an "Other Things" board for things that aren't political.

Better yet, there should be another board called "Theories and Other Trash". It would be called the THOT board.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:18 am to
The implications of an admission/confirmation of the UAP reality are massive. Everything is going to change, from philosophy to history to physics and beyond. It’s going to turn many peoples’ world upside down.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:24 am to
1st page.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:41 am to
I don't follow these sort of things but I really do appreciate these threads and find the subject matter wildly entertaining. Child wonderment in me is rekindled.

Ty TPA
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26939 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:49 am to
Why the change from UFO to UAP?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:52 am to
nice start.

are you going to have a thread on each idea?

interdimensional can account for some of beneath the surface of earth.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:29 am to
I love these posts. Thanks for doing this.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

They firmly jump into ancient alien territory with human historical interactions with “gods” actually being interactions with the phenomenon. Ancient cultures describe/depict civilizing forces that came from the sea. Native American describe star people. They also feel their ancestors came from within the Earth


Below is interesting because the person being interviewed is not a “conspiracy” or “alien” guy

He is a geologist who has tested some artifacts that he cannot reconcile (some of which date back more than 10 thousand years)

https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/mpfcyv/scott_wolter_says_he_was_contacted_by_the_defense/

Cliffs to high point of the interview (at the end)
Claims he was contacted by DoD to assist with pending disclosure/revelations

quote:

Not only does he know what faction of the government he's getting the information from but he also named the agent
They're concerned about how we treat each other: nationalism, racism, misogyny and bigotry aren't accepted in their society
Earth is unusually teaming with life and we're squandering a beautiful, unique planet. It's a great source of biological diversity. Losing it would be devastating
Aliens look alot like us, Human. Greys are biological robots/drones
In order for us to join the space community we need to work on our problems. They hope that by disclosing the reality of the visitors they could push us towards tackling issues urgently
No threats are involved. If they wanted us dead it would've happened a long time ago
The agent contacted him after he made some comments on odd artifacts he found which depicted planets and strange lifeforms in a previous podcast

Another important bit I would like to add is that Scott Wolter so far seems to be a respected, regular geologist. He explained how ancient Mexicans precisely carved their stones and what type of rocks they preferred. Completely dismissing the crazy conspiracies that aliens did everything for them. The other episodes of the podcasts are all ordinary archaeology topics, no traces of weird conspiracy theories.


https://www.earthancients.com/earthancients.com/?portfolio=scott-wolter-america-unearthed-overlords-of-ancient-mexico

quote:

SCOTT WOLTER: AMERICA UNEARTHED, OVERLORDS OF ANCIENT MEXICO

Scott F. Wolter is a forensic geologist and television host. He is known best as the host of the series “America Unearthed”. Wolter is based out of Minnesota, where he is the founder and president of American Petrographic Services and the inventor of Archaeopetrography (a process used to date and understand the origins of inscribed stone artifacts). In addition to investigating and dating ancient artifacts, Wolter was involved in analyzing fire damage to the concrete at the Pentagon after the September 11th terrorist attacks and has even helped the Las Vegas police investigate a homicide where a victim was found buried in concrete. His first television appearance was as a Kensington rune stone expert on the documentary “Holy Grail in America,” which indirectly resulted in Wolter hosting “America Unearthed.” Wolter is the author of several books on geology, the Knights Templar and theories related to pre-Columbian contact. His new book, “Cryptic Code of the Templar’s in America: Origins of the Hooked X,” is available early June 2019.


Another important theme is that our past is not what we have been led to believe...
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:57 pm to
How about some USO stuff.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:57 am to
Elizondo did a zoom press conference with multiple journalists (including NY Times and NBC). Watched it yd. summary below. Good overview on “what we know”

https://nypost.com/2021/04/24/pentagon-ufo-report-its-a-reality-whistleblower-says/?utm_source=reddit.com

quote:

Pentagon UFO report: They ‘acknowledged the reality,’ whistleblower says
By Michael Kaplan and Steven Greenstreet April 24, 2021 | 8:43am


quote:

UFOs are "real" and information is coming, says controversial Pentagon whistleblower Luis Elizondo. Mystery Wire

The US government is actually gearing up to share information about the “reality” of UFOs with the public — and not a moment too soon, says the man who claims to have run the Pentagon’s UFO program for 9 year


quote:

During a press conference this week, Elizondo made clear that UFOs have been observed to have qualities that are nothing less than otherworldly. He described vessels flying at 11,000 miles-per-hour and being able to turn “instantly.” Providing a comparison, he explained, for our most advanced jets going at the same speed, “if you wanted to make a right-hand turn, it would take you about half the state of Ohio to do it.”


quote:

He also detailed Spielberg-worthy operational capabilities that fall into the realm of “transmedium travel.” Elizondo explained that the eye-popping vessels can fly 50-feet above the Earth’s surface or 80,000 feet in the sky and even submerge underwater without a compromise in performance: “When you see that, you recognize you are dealing with a technology more advanced than ours.”


quote:

Even the way in which these inexplicable flying-machines manage to lift-off blows away rational engineering. “[These] things have no wings, no cockpits, no control surfaces, no rivets in the skin, no obvious signs of propulsion — and somehow they are able to defy the natural effects of Earth’s gravity,” Elizondo said. “How is that possible?”


quote:

However, for generations, and for all the wrong reasons, national security bigwigs did not want to release more information to the public, Elizondo claims. “They felt that it made them look inept,” he said. “They felt in some cases that it challenged their philosophical and theological belief systems … They just couldn’t process it.” “There seems to be a very distinct congruency between UAP activity and our nuclear technology,” he continued. “That’s concerning to the point where we’ve actually had some of our nuclear capabilities disabled by these things … There is absolutely evidence that UAPs have an active interest in our nuclear technology.” If this starts to sound like a “Twilight Zone” episode – Elizondo talks about UFOs pulling as many as 700 G-forces when our most technologically advanced aircraft can stand only 17 before falling apart (and that’s to say nothing about pilots at the controls) — it’s easy to hope for a fast and satisfactory wrap-up.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

I do not pretend to have all the answers. I appreciate constructive criticisms/other viewpoints.



you are missing the explanation that's conservatively about 99.9999999% likely to be accurate. they are ours or foreign government crafts.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 10:03 pm
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15874 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 10:25 pm to
These are always the best threads on this forum
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 10:26 pm to
This will go as well as the Q thread
Posted by Angry Bruce Pearl
Florida
Member since Jul 2020
599 posts
Posted on 5/9/21 at 1:52 am to
These stories of craft moving in ways that seem to break the laws of physics are fascinating. It seems similar to how the tech in Mass Effect works. For the uninitiated, there is a substance called "Element Zero" that can raise or lower mass when subjected to electric currents. "Mass effect" fields can be manipulated so that ships or anything else have more or less mass than they should. A ship with a mass effect drive will take almost no delta V to reach orbit and can actually travel at FTL by way of a mass effect field making the ship's mass equal to zero.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5980 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:43 pm to
Below you will find a collection of CIA related UFO records. The Black Vault’s connection to the CIA in getting some of these UFO documents released goes back to 1996.

Originally, the CIA would only release about 1,000 pages that had been previously disclosed after a FOIA court case in the 1980s. They never addressed the records that were dated in the years after the case.

The Black Vault spent years fighting for them, and many were released in the late 1990s. However, over time, the CIA made a CD-ROM collection of UFO documents, which encompassed the original records, along with the ones that took years to fight for.
1000s in searchable files
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37413 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

- spiritual war between angels/demons and light/dark (well documented)
- ultraterrestrials. Civilization that has coevolved with human on earth (mankinds...)
- inter-dimensional beings. Live alongside us, but we do not always perceive them (enhanced by prayer, meditation, drugs that change state/perception. Think burning bush)
- intelligent AI. The crafts are the intelligence or projections of intelligence in a post biological civilization
-simulation/holographic universe. Phenomenon is a moderator of sorts
- breakaway human civilization lives alongside white world humanity. The speculation is the Nazis literally went underground and off world. They influence behind the scene and are currently driving the push for 1 world governance (initially infiltrated US through project paperclip paving the way for our space program and advanced mind control techniques which has evolved into advanced tactics using false flags, MSM and social media platforms).



Why not add PsyOp to the list?
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3263 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 8:11 am to
Put it down and step away from the pipe
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