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re: Am I reading this right? They want to take down the Claiborne expressway??

Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:22 am to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:22 am to
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Look at how the Perkins Road overpass area has been able to throw wrenches because they know this.


Yup, and they have today's communication methods, as well as some clout, to do this.

Back in the 60s, these black owned businesses / residents didn't have either of those.

I often wonder if they had been able to get the project stalled, when the feds cancelled the Riverfront Expressway for historical reasons, if they would have cancelled the Claiborne Elevated for the same.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:22 am to
The plan is to upgrade 610 to carry the traffic, which has been happening.

Like someone said, Claiborne will come down eventually, whether it is condemned or just falls. It will destroy the culture of underneath the overpass that has developed for the last 60 years.

Someone had mentioned turning part of it into something like the Highline in NYC which is a cool idea. Logistically a huge project.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 10:25 am
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32665 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:34 am to
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It will destroy the culture of underneath the overpass that has developed for the last 60 years


So we just gonna relocate all the hobos and druggies to Charity Hospital?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:38 am to
They'll probably just isolate under the 90 overpass.

Was more referencing the area between Orleans and Esplanade.
Posted by hairydude
Hot Springs AR
Member since Nov 2008
141 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:10 am to
I think TheHaraharian would agree that when the Interstate system plowed through North and South Claiborne in the early "60's it was primarily white families which were relocated. Am I right? That being the case how then can anyone claim the roadway to be a racist roadway? Are people not considering the population shift between then and now?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:12 am to
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This is why people don't take shite like this seriously.


CRT is a fabricated fairy tale with no scientific basis. It's a window lickers wet dream.
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
10726 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:42 am to
IDGAF, N.O. has turned into a gar hole, born there, never going back. Next storm just open the levees and wash it away.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76547 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:25 pm to
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wiped out a thriving black business district according to the story. I'd like a source for all these thriving businesses that were impossible to reinvent in another location.


I don’t doubt some small businesses were wiped out. Just look at all the other thriving prosperous black business corridors in the city as an example of what was lost. Look at south Claiborne. Lovely area.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:33 pm to
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system plowed through North and South Claiborne in the early "60's it was primarily white families which were relocated


Probably not. No doubt there were white families relocated though.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26709 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:41 pm to
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The plan is to upgrade 610 to carry the traffic,


Exactly where is the traffic going to go? Pontchartrain Expressway? It's already a cluster frick in the morning and evening rush hours...
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
62089 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:48 pm to
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The federal government built the expressway in the late 1960s as a way to speed traffic through New Orleans’ downtown core. At the time, white elected officials and traffic engineers paid little heed to concerns that the elevated highway meant demolishing dozens of stately oak trees on the wide neutral ground of North Claiborne Avenue and disrupting a thriving Black business district in the process.


Whitey caused the murders there
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17165 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:55 pm to
It’s much easier to rob people driving on surface streets than on an elevated expressway.

100% of the people doing the robbing and carjacking in New Orleans are black, so this puts them at a disadvantage.

This racist overpass gotta go!
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:56 pm to
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Exactly where is the traffic going to go? Pontchartrain Expressway? It's already a cluster frick in the morning and evening rush hours...


Yep. Not sure how/if the expressway will be upgraded through that stretch, but 610 will become I-10 and Pontchatrain Expressway will be 90 (or maybe 110) and will intersect it with an upgraded interchange.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26709 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Yep. Not sure how/if the expressway will be upgraded through that stretch, but 610 will become I-10 and Pontchatrain Expressway will be 90 (or maybe 110) and will intersect it with an upgraded interchange.


Good luck with that...

Thank God I have to be to work at 6:30 when there's little traffic...
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19568 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:31 pm to
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I think TheHaraharian would agree that when the Interstate system plowed through North and South Claiborne in the early "60's it was primarily white families which were relocated.

I don’t know that, but I know that stretch runs through Treme which is labeled historically black.
It’s not a small area. Stretch of several miles, so it’s not a single neighborhood.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:36 pm to
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Stretch of several miles, so it’s not a single neighborhood.


The Claiborne expressway runs through the Tulane/Gravier neighborhood, Treme, and the Seventh Ward, all of which I believe are historically black neighborhoods.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9048 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:08 pm to
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Yeah, this is a boondoggle in the making. They act like but for the interstate North Claiborne would be some thriving black business district. But they ignore the fact that South Claiborne, which is not burdened by the interstate, is also a crime ridden shitehole in the areas where it is surrounded by the hood. Hint: The elevated expressway isn't the problem.


The best part is that the people they will hurt most are the homeless that live under that bridge. Dems are supposed to be pro homeless people.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:54 pm to
Underwater tunnels are commonly below sea level.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19568 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:48 pm to

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Underwater tunnels are commonly below sea level.

NOLA doesn’t have basements for a reason. Bodies are interred above ground for a reason.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20033 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 4:06 pm to
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A few years ago I found out 110 in BR is also racist. Elevated highways seem to be more racist than surface level highways. I guess it’s the way they were raised.


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